The Big WWE Wrestling Thread

rypt · 28 Aug 2009 at 22:08

TNA need to sack Russo tbh

Tute · 28 Aug 2009 at 22:54

If they get too big, WWE will just buy them anyway.

Best thing TNA can do is stay around the same size they currently are.

Robert1986 · 29 Aug 2009 at 11:06

Tute said:
If they get too big, WWE will just buy them anyway.

I think Vince has learned his lesson in buying out his competition. Thats why they had the draft split to add some sort of brand wars. I remember Vince saying he missed the tension of trying to compete with wcw.

rypt · 29 Aug 2009 at 11:41

If Vince learned a lesson .. why did he go PG for ALL the brands then, could have kept RAW 14, and SD PG

Tute · 29 Aug 2009 at 12:17

rypt said:
SD 14, and RAW PG

Fixed that for you.

RAW is all flash and no cash, at least SD has some decent talent to back it up.

rypt · 29 Aug 2009 at 14:15

Tute said:
Fixed that for you.

RAW is all flash and no cash, at least SD has some decent talent to back it up.

SD was always PG (or PG 13), Raw used to be PG 13 back in 97/98 before it went higher in the Attitude era - SD stayed PG 13 until both brands were moved to PG.

rypt · 29 Aug 2009 at 16:25

Forgot to say this earlier ...

I dislike how even the PPVs are more PG friendly now

There is no reason why PPVs cannot be more adult oriented.

Robert1986 · 29 Aug 2009 at 20:23

rypt said:
If Vince learned a lesson .. why did he go PG for ALL the brands then, could have kept RAW 14, and SD PG

Because kids love buying John Cena merch.

rypt · 29 Aug 2009 at 23:30

Robert1986 said:
Because kids love buying John Cena merch.

And kids will still watch a 14 show, I'm 22 now, have been watching WWE/WWF/WCW since '98 when I was 11 - go figure.
A number of my friends watched WWF back then as well..

Most parents dont check what the rating of the show is, and you can have one kid friendly show and one for the adults - afterall kids do not buy PPVs the adults do.

JamesU2005 · 30 Aug 2009 at 08:33

The best example was this years ECW One Night Stand. The biggest load of PG rubbish ever!

Tute · 30 Aug 2009 at 22:23

JamesU2005 said:
The best example was this years ECW One Night Stand. The biggest load of rubbish ever!

Fixed.

Kenai · 31 Aug 2009 at 00:22

So, 'Taker in a submission match at the next PPV.

Who wants to take a guess at how that one will finish?

Robert1986 · 31 Aug 2009 at 15:42

Kenai said:
So, 'Taker in a submission match at the next PPV.

Who wants to take a guess at how that one will finish?

Taker has also never taped out. Good booking wwe.

rypt · 31 Aug 2009 at 16:56

A submission match can end in a KO though, like from a go to sleep :/

Robert1986 · 31 Aug 2009 at 17:10

rypt said:
A submission match can end in a KO though, like from a go to sleep :/

No they can't, the only way to end a submission match is with a submission. Name one time a submission match has ended on a KO.

Dolph · 31 Aug 2009 at 17:20

Robert1986 said:
No they can't, the only way to end a submission match is with a submission. Name one time a submission match has ended on a KO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"I_Quit"_match#No_Disqualification_Submission_Match

Stone cold Steve Austin lost a submission match via falling unconcious to Bret Hart at Wrestlemania 13. (He refused to submit while in the sharpshooter)

jrodga2k5 · 31 Aug 2009 at 17:22

Robert1986 said:
No they can't, the only way to end a submission match is with a submission. Name one time a submission match has ended on a KO.

It happens in certain holds such as the Master Lock and the Undertaker's choke hold.

It wouldnt surprise me if any of the matches ended in things such as that, especially the Undertaker vs CM Punk

Robert1986 · 31 Aug 2009 at 17:29

Dolph said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"I_Quit"_match#No_Disqualification_Submission_Match

Stone cold Steve Austin lost a submission match via falling unconcious to Bret Hart at Wrestlemania 13. (He refused to submit while in the sharpshooter)

That was an I quit match though.

rypt · 31 Aug 2009 at 17:39

Robert1986 said:
That was an I quit match though.

If a person is passed out then they are unable to submit as such the referee would stop the match and announce them as the loser.

Passing out in a submission hold constitutes a loss by knockout. To determine if a wrestler has passed out in WWE, the referee usually picks up and drops his hand. If it drops three consecutive times without the wrestler having the strength to stop it from falling, the wrestler is considered to have passed out. At one point this was largely ignored. However, the rule is now much more commonly observed for safety reasons. If the wrestler has passed out, the opponent then scores by submission.

Robert1986 · 31 Aug 2009 at 17:49

I stand corrected.