The Biggest Decision Of My Life

From reading your personal statement I get the impression that mathematics and computing isn't the right area for you, and something to do with machinery and computing, and possibly a science would have been better suited.

Did anyone else think the same, or am I just misreading the personal statement?
 
Kronologic said:
flower arranging obviously

BSC(Hons) Information Systems.
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You've done well to juggle everything with your degree, and that's to be commended, but you can't compare an information systems degree to maths.
 
SaBBz said:
If you leave university you could become a trainee chartered accountant and gain an ACCA qualification (not as good as ACA, you need a degree for this one). This will lead to a fairly good wage :)
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How is he going to pass ACCA if he couldnt hack first year degree? Thats what everyone is missing here. Not having a degree is not the end of the world but being a bit thick just might be.
 
daz said:
You've done well to juggle everything with your degree, and that's to be commended, but you can't compare an information systems degree to maths.
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All degrees have to fall into a certain level of expectation and skill in that subject matter area. At the end of the day a 2.1 in Flower Arranging should be equal to a 2.1 in astrophysics; in content, expectations, challenge to the student and prestige.

Likewise a 2.1 at Cambridge is equal to a 2.1 at Bucks Uni. (in everything but prestige however I am told this is a popular misconception as the value of the degree is no less)
 
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Kronologic said:
All degrees have to fall into a certain level of expectation and skill in that subject matter area. At the end of the day a 2.1 in Flower Arranging should be equal to a 2.1 in astrophysics; in content, expectations, challenge to the student and prestige.

Likewise a 2.1 at Cambridge is equal to a 2.1 at Bucks Uni. (in everything but prestige however I am told this is a popular misconception as the value of the degree is no less)
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I don't want to open up a can of worms because we had a massive thread on this last time, but as far as I'm aware this isn't true.
 
Telescopi said:
Speak to your careers office about direct entry to year 2 of a different degree, something you think will give you an easier time but still be attractive to the city.

Worse comes to the worse you have to start from year 1 again, I think a good degree in a good course at a good university will set you up better than having flunked out in year 1 and job hunting with just a levels, experience or not.
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Couldn't agree more. Try something you enjoy, but has enough optional modules which allows you to pick some bits of maths (to impress) but not others.

Whatever you do, stay at uni. It's the best chance you have.
 
Kronologic said:
demon

what do you want to do for a job?
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I want to go into the city and work for a bank or something similar.

[TW]Fox said:
How is he going to pass ACCA if he couldnt hack first year degree? Thats what everyone is missing here. Not having a degree is not the end of the world but being a bit thick just might be.
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Im not thick for starters!

I got 2,1's in my modules i passed im just not good at stats so i failed that module and missed out by 3 marks on my other one.
 
Bar said:
Not going to post as the amount of abuse in other threads for so called "willy waving" is untrue.

Suffice to say you can earn significantly above the average if you apply yourself, have a natural ability and catch the right breaks. It involves taking the right risks.

Experience is what is required more and more. I would certainly value someone with proven ability and experience over someone fresh out of school with a degree.

It also depends on the company culture, the HR policies, the people hiring a whole host of factors.
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What about somebody with a degree AND lots of experience?
 
SoSolid said:
What about somebody with a degree AND lots of experience?
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Thats what the 'degrees are rubbish' people seem to forget really.

In 10 years time, who do you employee for potential higher end management roles. The guy with 10 years experience or the guy with 7 years experience and a degree..
 
I finished my degree in 2006 , got a 2:2 in mol biology. I decided i wanted to work in banking. its quite hard to get in and ive had to do admin jobs for a whole year. i now have a temporary admin job in citibank (since may), but its boring.

hard work = sitting infront of a pc all day doing data entry until your eyes bleed. its a 21st century sweat shop!

how can you say you want to work in a bank if youve never worked in one before. it seems like a really stressful career. some people at citi spend the whole day doing conference calls, writing reports and giving presentations to clients.

there's a good reason why IB like graduates from oxbridge
 
I think it's best to do what you enjoy - since I was about 12 I always enjoyed buying and selling.

At 17 I left college as I failed everything and started working in a sales job with no qualifactions apart from GCSEs (uness Us and Es in college count :p )

Since then I have earned £25k in the first year and £35k in the second.

I think if you have the motivation to do well at something you enjoy , you don't need a degree. (Of course, this will depend on the sector you are looking at working in)
 
One thing to bear in mind is that getting a crap degree can be worse than getting no degree at all in some respects. Suppose you stick at it, and in 2 years time graduate with a 3rd, pass or fail. Most employers that are interested in graduates want 2:2 minimum (many above that). So effectively you are worse off than if you had gone out and gained two years experience (or perhaps done a vocational qualification such as Accountancy).
 
Why don't you just be a plumber/handyman, you'd make a small fortune, more than most graduates make, in the long run.

You're right in thinking less than a 2.1 is terrible, I have a 2.2, and am basically not gonna get a job, i've looked at job sites 10 hours a day, and sent several applications, but when 20 people apply to each graduate job, im screwed. I need a miracle, i've been lucky in life so far, by fluking grades and getting by... but i'm worried my luck is running out
 
ArmyofHarmony said:
Why don't you just be a plumber/handyman, you'd make a small fortune, more than most graduates make, in the long run.

You're right in thinking less than a 2.1 is terrible, I have a 2.2, and am basically not gonna get a job, i've looked at job sites 10 hours a day, and sent several applications, but when 20 people apply to each graduate job, im screwed. I need a miracle, i've been lucky in life so far, by fluking grades and getting by... but i'm worried my luck is running out
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my advice is get a any job you can, swallow your pride

if you get called to an interview for a graduate job and they ask what your doing in the mean time, it will sound much better if you say your working. even if its catering or some rubbish
 
neocon said:
I finished my degree in 2006 , got a 2:2 in mol biology. I decided i wanted to work in banking. its quite hard to get in and ive had to do admin jobs for a whole year. i now have a temporary admin job in citibank (since may), but its boring.

hard work = sitting infront of a pc all day doing data entry until your eyes bleed. its a 21st century sweat shop!

how can you say you want to work in a bank if youve never worked in one before. it seems like a really stressful career. some people at citi spend the whole day doing conference calls, writing reports and giving presentations to clients.

there's a good reason why IB like graduates from oxbridge
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Molecular bio to banking...Bit of a stretch..Can I ask why the change?
 
ArmyofHarmony said:
Why don't you just be a plumber/handyman, you'd make a small fortune, more than most graduates make, in the long run.
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Not true these days.
 
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