The Boy Who Lived Before

Thought it might be interesting and was as should everybody else, view it with an open mind. Anyway it's raining hard and this appears to disrupt the satellite signal so I have no chance lol
 
It seems pretty genuine to me. Who knows if it's a past life but there's surely something strange going on.
 
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Yeah was pretty interesting. Still not sure about it (for the record, as a Buddhist i DO believe in reincarnation, it's these sort of cases i remain skeptical about).

But a good watch (having missed the first 15 mins due to my dad :mad:
 
Freeman said:
They will rip him apart, just like they did with that girl from russia who said she could heal people.

What, they'll set up a test that he states before it even begins he won't be able to pass and exactly why, then force him to go ahead with it, then when he fails the part he said he would, exactly as he predicted (while getting pretty much most of the others right), they'll try and declare him a fraud?

That's what they did with the girl from Russia after all...

This is why I dislike these programs, skeptics will not allow their beliefs to be challenged, and are generally more concerned with ensuring that than actually trying to look at the issue. Believers will ignore the skeptics, it's mostly just a waste of time.
 
Dolph said:
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This is why I dislike these programs, skeptics will not allow their beliefs to be challenged, and are generally more concerned with ensuring that than actually trying to look at the issue. Believers will ignore the skeptics, it's mostly just a waste of time.

Wow, it sounds like Islam!
 
cleanbluesky said:
It depends how you define 'memory'. The way I see it, most of the ideas that follow through from one life to the next are the ones with massive emotional significance attached to them. A person can develop subconcious emotions that they are not able to conciously explain, I figure that past-life associations may be transferred in a similar way. Ever wondered why people have inexplicable phobias or similar?

The parts of the body that hold subconcious memory are not certain, as subconoius events are very hard to measure.

1) The person may not be able to explain where the memories come from but a psychiatrist, neuropsychologist, neurophysician, child psychologist, developmental psychologist, neurocogntive scientist could all explain where 'subconcious' memories comes from, and tell you why the concept of subconcious memories are pointless.


2) Similalrly, a psychiatrist could explain where phobias come from, they are some of the most basic cogntive processes and are clear cases of pavlovian association etc. The phobias may not be logical but they are always explainable by science.

3) There is no such thing as 'subconcsious memory'. All memory can be considered subconcious as the only concious memories are those held in STS memory and hence highly limited. By associative processes LTS memories are recalled and copied into LTS buffers and become part of concious thought.
Secondly, human memory is extremely fragile and very susteptible curruption and the generation of false memories to ensure a continuality in concious thought. False memories and memory manipulation are huge research areas with very important consequences for witness interrogation. Hence hypnoticism-regression is not allowed in a court of law as evidence becuase it is nearly impossible to avoid false memories.
 
Noxis said:
What about genetic memory? There is some school of thoughts regarding this where you can inherit memories.

Maybe the same thing :eek:


No such thing. This is an interesting case of old ideas and theories which were originally proved to be false and discarded by the scientific community. Subsequently people read 'popular' psychology tripe and 'beleiver' websites and start beleiving in something which science debunct ages ago.

Genetic memory was a backgroudn theory at the time when DNA was just being discovered and its processes theorised. The connections between DNA and evolution were being researched to see how they fit in. One such theory was that an animal that learns something useful that helps it survive will somehow encode that in DNA such that it can be passed onto offspring making the offspring healthier, forming a nice evolutionary process. But this was before anyone knew how DNA worked and it was found that the DNA is more or less fixed and cannot be altered except by mutation and crossover, and secondly experiemtns look at animal behaviour and evolution concluded that the learnt behaviours were not genetically passed onto offsrping- e.g. a mother chimps teaches the baby how to use a stick to collect larvae from a log. Non of the non-baseset skills were ever genetically passed on in animal in any situation. Furhter experimentation looking at simple organisms and pavlovian response mechanisms showed the same thing, with no genetic transfer of behaviours responses. By studying organisms like Nematodes where every single gene is known about and can be controlled for and studied by hand, shows that nothing effects the DNA etc.

Genetic memory has further been debunct by studying GA and evolutionary algorithms. The effect observed is just that of evolution. Say some animal develops a particular skill that helps it survive. It may have devloped this skill partly because of some genetics adjusted part of the brain to better process that task, e.g. maybe a better memory in a squirrel so it better remembers where it hide its stash of nuts etc. Because of survival of the fittest, this genetic difference gets spread to its offspring, and so eventually that species
develops better memory, etc. The same can apply to almost any behaviour.

This makes it look like memories/behaviours are adjusting the DNA, but it is actually the other way round. The DNA effects behaviours which, by survival of the fittest, will select for that gene. Leading to special neurophysiology.

By this process humans developed a special language acquisition neuromechanism. Babies/todlers have the ability to learn any language from birth with relative ease, this ability fades beyond about 8-10 meaning we as adults find it a lot harder to learn a 2nd language. This is not genetic meory, merely evolution.
 
I think I would have liked to watch this, I wont blindly believe something I read in a paper, or see on the TV... but I find it comforting to entertain the slight possibility... "don't worry, you just come back".

It's a pleasant idea :)
 
it is very interesting ... the child was spot on in some areas - he was insistent there was a dog and even when they couldn't find the place he was on about, he insisted that he was telling the truth. Then they found the place and he just clammed up and looked totally overwhelmed. And they found the photos of the dog too.

Very interesting stuff whether you believe it or not.
 
Slightly off topic in that my question has no relation to the boy's experience nor am I questioning whether it's true or not.

I don't understand how you can live again.. I mean, perhaps you can but it wouldn't exactly be you would it? Unless you have certain memories of your past life you are just another person on this planet.
 
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