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Not realy, its not meant to use with heavy soiling or visibly big bits of grit. But it does glide well, suggesting that the surface is being lubricated sufficiently and that any dirt is being encapsulated safely enough for bird poop or light dust duties. Main advantage over just water is it then adds protection to the area that the poop has eaten through.
 
Whilst ambling around Halfords, as you do, I came across this product on sale for £3.50 and thought it would be useful for dealing with bird-poop on the go. At the price, what could go wrong? I was rather impressed, so have written a short review on it:

Product: Turtle Wax Wash & Wax Waterless Cleaning
Nice review thanks, sounds perfect for a quick mop-up of bird muck, which seems to be every time I park my car recently!
 
Stupidly overpriced and badly designed. Resin not in the flow of water wont be used so each refill bag is wasting a lot of resin. You could build your own for < £100 notes which would work better.

Have you owned one of these?

How do you conclude that the resin is not in the flow of water?

I have owned both types and after messing around with loose resin in a tank I swapped to the Pure Final Rinse unit as it takes 1 minute to swap in a new bag (you can actually fill them with loose resin too if the bags are ever phased out) with zero mess.

I think I paid £185 (no chance you could build anything like this for under £100) for the unit including bag, has the inbuilt tds meter and is very well built - I think great value when you consider the time saved with the bags.

If you want me to post pictures of it stripped down so you can properly understand the workings (I would say it uses the resin as efficiently as the tank versions such as the raceglaze) I can do as I am replacing the inlet connector as stupidly stepped on it :o after no issues at all for 3 years of ownership.

BTW I discovered this thread after searching for Autoglym Polar Seal reviews (not to start any arguments with my first post ;)) and thought I would sign up and comment as wanted others to know how good these units are from someone that has owned one for 3 years+ (and the tank type - which do work perfectly great too)... then ended up reading many pages of this thread and thought there are some great info so will stick around.

I own a black pearlescent car in a very hard water area so a DI is a must!
 
Have you owned one of these?

I havent owned one but I have a friend who does have one so ive taken a look at how its built.

But dont take my word for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cho2REpLNNg

250 litres from a PFR1 at a cost of £180 on offer https://juicy-details.co.uk/shop/pure-final-rinse-pfr1/
Refils at 25 quid each if you buy 4: https://juicy-details.co.uk/shop/pure-final-rinse-rapid-change-resin/

So thats £280 for 1250 litres of water.

Or 22p per litre.


So for the same money, you can get a raceglaze 14 litre: https://www.raceglaze.co.uk/car-care-exterior/wash/car-wash-water-filter-14-litre-tall/ at £189
Plus a bag of resin https://www.finest-filters.co.uk/25-litre-sack-tulsion-mb-111-deionising-resin/ for £80 which gives you just under 2 full refills

And will produce you 3000 litres of water for £260

Or 8p per litre.


For maximum ion exchange with a resin you require a unit which is thin and narrow in the pathing of the water.

no chance you could build anything like this for under £100

Quite easily could build your own for under £100.
 
I havent owned one but I have a friend who does have one so ive taken a look at how its built.

But dont take my word for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cho2REpLNNg

250 litres from a PFR1 at a cost of £180 on offer https://juicy-details.co.uk/shop/pure-final-rinse-pfr1/
Refils at 25 quid each if you buy 4: https://juicy-details.co.uk/shop/pure-final-rinse-rapid-change-resin/

So thats £280 for 1250 litres of water.

Or 22p per litre.


So for the same money, you can get a raceglaze 14 litre: https://www.raceglaze.co.uk/car-care-exterior/wash/car-wash-water-filter-14-litre-tall/ at £189
Plus a bag of resin https://www.finest-filters.co.uk/25-litre-sack-tulsion-mb-111-deionising-resin/ for £80 which gives you just under 2 full refills

And will produce you 3000 litres of water for £260

Or 8p per litre.


For maximum ion exchange with a resin you require a unit which is thin and narrow in the pathing of the water.



Quite easily could build your own for under £100.

All fair points... I just put more value into the convenience of the unit rather than the overall price per litre.

You must admit that when it comes to changing the resin in those units its a pain?

Even when you use the purpose built funnel etc. emptying the old loose resin and bagging it for disposal, making sure its not overfilled otherwise you cant get the cap on, bang it down as you fill... I don't miss it that's for sure.

But don't take my word for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5A2BxcZ8xc

In comparison... 1/4 turn lid, remove bag, new bag in and close lid and fill with water - job done.

Ok, you can build a small tank unit for loose resin for £100 or less but not one that would be as convenient as a PFR unit.
 
You must admit that when it comes to changing the resin in those units its a pain?

It takes all of 15 minutes to empty and refill, so the convenience for 3x the cost to run is not even worth considering imho.

Ok, you can build a small tank unit for loose resin for £100 or less but not one that would be as convenient as a PFR unit.

If I were going to build one myself the refill wouldnt be as easy as bag out bag in but it wouldnt be far off :) Hell I could even build it with a replaceable core which *would* make it that easy, but again it just adds pointless cost.
 
It takes all of 15 minutes to empty and refill, so the convenience for 3x the cost to run is not even worth considering imho.

If I were going to build one myself the refill wouldnt be as easy as bag out bag in but it wouldnt be far off :) Hell I could even build it with a replaceable core which *would* make it that easy, but again it just adds pointless cost.

Cool glad you are happy... just wanted to give another opinion on Pure Final Rinse units having owned both types of DI vessel over the years.

IMHO a must have in hard water areas and for dark cars plus the benefits of not having to make further contact with drying towels.
 
Finally pulled the trigger and ordered some Gyeon Mohs today. Not up to much at the weekend so I might take the day to do a full detail on the car and slap on a couple of coats.
 
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BSD still not far off being the bead king
 
See, the problem with beading is the water then sits on the car in those beads. When it evaporates I tend to find spots everywhere as a result.
 
It's just from dust in the air but more often where i am - pollen. Get little yellow dots!

Yup I get that too, but I'd rather that than no layers over paint. Sealed paint usually washes that off without hand contact too. Just pressure wash off and done.
 
Well a ruined back later and two coats of Mohs are on the 140. Also cleaned the windscreen and did a fresh coat of repel too.

Found Mohs quite tricky at times to work with. It didn't help I don't have great lighting in the garage and it was hard to see it going down, and checking even coverage. And it seems weird wiping it away after 30 seconds or so, seems like it's not in there long enough to do anything!
Time will tell as I don't need to use the car for almost a week, so I'll let it sit on there and fully cure.

On a weird side note, I put a couple of costs on my watch face for a laugh. I can already see the difference there as water just sheets straight off!
 
Well a ruined back later and two coats of Mohs are on the 140. Also cleaned the windscreen and did a fresh coat of repel too.

Found Mohs quite tricky at times to work with. It didn't help I don't have great lighting in the garage and it was hard to see it going down, and checking even coverage. And it seems weird wiping it away after 30 seconds or so, seems like it's not in there long enough to do anything!
Time will tell as I don't need to use the car for almost a week, so I'll let it sit on there and fully cure.

On a weird side note, I put a couple of costs on my watch face for a laugh. I can already see the difference there as water just sheets straight off!
Sorry didnt see your previous reply asking for tips, but as you've found out its pretty simple to apply anyway. You can layer it btw, up to 3 coats depending how much you got left. The beading action on Mohs is amazing, I think you will be impressed.
 
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