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Toker said:
whether that is the case or not, who cares if it makes it available to the public :)

you can also get a bigger 3M range here:

http://www.consumablesexpress.co.uk/acatalog/Polishes_and_Compounds.html
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3M care because it's reducing their profits. Stuff gets brought over from abroad meaning that the UK Distributors and 3M miss out.:)

3M go out of their way to look after their UK customers (ie the Trade Distribution firms) and if every Tom, Dick and Harry can get hold of the stuff then it is Distribution who are missing out.

Either way, its still better than Farecla.
 
Minxy said:
3M care because it's reducing their profits. Stuff gets brought over from abroad meaning that the UK Distributors and 3M miss out.:)

3M go out of their way to look after their UK customers (ie the Trade Distribution firms) and if every Tom, Dick and Harry can get hold of the stuff then it is Distribution who are missing out.

Either way, its still better than Farecla.
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3M will be making enough millions for it not to be an issue and it's certainly not going to be enough to make them stop producing products, so it's all good. I'm sure if they cared they'd stop supplying said websites :)

I can't really see polishedbliss bringing it over from abroad, they are a small 2 man detailing company, although one of the most if not THE most respected
 
Minxy said:
3M care because it's reducing their profits. Stuff gets brought over from abroad meaning that the UK Distributors and 3M miss out.:)

3M go out of their way to look after their UK customers (ie the Trade Distribution firms) and if every Tom, Dick and Harry can get hold of the stuff then it is Distribution who are missing out.

Either way, its still better than Farecla.
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Sounds liek you work for them:p
 
Minxy said:
3M care because it's reducing their profits. Stuff gets brought over from abroad meaning that the UK Distributors and 3M miss out.:)

3M go out of their way to look after their UK customers (ie the Trade Distribution firms) and if every Tom, Dick and Harry can get hold of the stuff then it is Distribution who are missing out.

Either way, its still better than Farecla.
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How can it be reducing 3M UK profits when you have said they don't sell to the public only trade ? 3M UK are missing out on a big market by only supplying the trade.
 
Was about to make a new thread, but found this one. So here goes:

The instructions in the OP are really good.

However they are bit OTT for my needs.

What would people recommend for someone who hasn't got a major OCD over cleaning? Whats the cheapest (ie only using cheap, say halfords) products. And getting an 'okay' result.

Any ideas would be great.

Oh and also, any advice on cleaning the engine bay. Don't fancy pulling the whole thing out. But any products that are safe and cheap to use? Or just an oily rag and some elbow grease?

Ta

Alec
 
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Toker said:
3M will be making enough millions for it not to be an issue and it's certainly not going to be enough to make them stop producing products, so it's all good. I'm sure if they cared they'd stop supplying said websites :)

I can't really see polishedbliss bringing it over from abroad, they are a small 2 man detailing company, although one of the most if not THE most respected
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I'm not sure what you mean when you say about them stopping producing products, why would they do that?

3M might make millions but that doesn't mean that they dont suffer problems like anyone else. It's like Vxl selling products both over here to the great British public and people like me getting parts imported from Germany....why? Because it's cheaper, but it means that 3M wont get such a big profit margin on it.



As I said, they supply to trade distribution centres, they differ in size and reputation but I would be very surprised if they were any 2 man bands who traded by website only since most sizeable bodyshops take deliveries of wet and dry goods a couple of times a week.

Tinders : I may be involved somewhere along the line. ;)

Dangerous Dave : Your guess is as good as mine. I've already pointed that one out as I belong to a Car Club where a few members have already asked me about getting their hands on some products. Unfortunately...due to 3M not doing private sales, I am unable to help them.
 
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allllec said:
Was about to make a new thread, but found this one. So here goes:

The instructions in the OP are really good.

However they are bit OTT for my needs.

What would people recommend for someone who hasn't got a major OCD over cleaning? Whats the cheapest (ie only using cheap, say halfords) products. And getting an 'okay' result.

Any ideas would be great.

Oh and also, any advice on cleaning the engine bay. Don't fancy pulling the whole thing out. But any products that are safe and cheap to use? Or just an oily rag and some elbow grease?

Ta

Alec
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First of all you will save allot by not buying stuff from Halfrauds.

How much is cheap? For £50 (ish) you could get some decent stuff.

- Meguiars Lambswool Wash Mitt
- Dodo Juice - Born to be mild shampoo
- Sonus Perfect Shine Drying Towel
- Meguiars Quik Clay kit
- Megs #16
 
Minxy said:
I'm not sure what you mean when you say about them stopping producing products, why would they do that?
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what I mean by that is if they have good products I want to be able to get my hands on them and have no care about them losing profits, unless they lost so much money that they had to stop producing products but that's never going to happen


Minxy said:
Unfortunately...due to 3M not doing private sales, I am unable to help them.
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well now you can tell them about the websites I posted so they can get the products...along with the hundreds of other 3M polish users on detailingworld :)
 
Is Autoglym SRP a really abrasive polish; is it OK to use by hand?

For my more prominent scratch marks, should I use something like Scratch-X, and then use Autoglym SRP all over?

Lastly, can I safely skip a glaze, and just apply Collinite wax straight after?

Cheers
 
AG SRP is perfect by hand, and its ok to put a wax straight on top but would be better with a couple of coats of AG extra gloss protection. SRP isnt really aggressive, its more of a filler so dont expect miracles when working by hand. I got a tube of scratch-x when it was being raved about a few years ago but didnt see much improvement from it.

If you havent got any products yet Bilt Hamber Autobalm is getting good reviews as a one step product, plus its cheap at around 15 pounds.
 
JimpsEd said:
Is Autoglym SRP a really abrasive polish; is it OK to use by hand?

For my more prominent scratch marks, should I use something like Scratch-X, and then use Autoglym SRP all over?

Lastly, can I safely skip a glaze, and just apply Collinite wax straight after?

Cheers
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SRP isn't really a polish in the normal sense of the word, it's more of an acrylic sealant with chemical cleansers (virtually no abrasives).

It will remove some hazing/discolouring/oxidation etc but will not remove scratches or swirls, instead they are just disguised a bit by the abundant fillers but still visible.

I'm not really a fan of this product to be honest, I prefer products which actually remove defects. It's also REALLY dusty when buffing off
 
JimpsEd said:
For hand, too? I want something that isn't going to allow me to screw up my paintwork, but still do a fairly decent polish job.
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I wouldn't attempt it by hand you'll be there all day.

Also this kind of polish works by firstly have large particles that get rid of deeper swirls which then become smaller particles as you work the product in, a bit like going from a course sandpaper to a finer one automatically. Thing is though if you don't work it enough you won't get this happening and could end up worse then before you started.

I use a rotary polisher and even with this you have to give it a good going over and it takes a while just on each area you are doing.
 
Interesting, I might just skip the polishing, or maybe only target my really obvious scratches with polish and then and go straight onto wax.
 
Menzerna PO91L intensive polish isn't the machine version, it's the hand version. Unlike the machine version it has brittle abrasives which are easily broken down by hand. Medium to firm pressure for a couple of minutes per section is ample to break the polish down and produce great results
 
Toker said:
Menzerna PO91L intensive polish isn't the machine version, it's the hand version. Unlike the machine version it has brittle abrasives which are easily broken down by hand. Medium to firm pressure for a couple of minutes per section is ample to break the polish down and produce great results
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This sounds ideal then :)
 
Got a customers car tonight, ive got a new product i want to give a whirl.
What are your thought on doing

Polish
Wax
Seal

or some people say

Polish
Seal
Wax

?
 
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