The car that runs on air....

lol yep, it's just like when people think they're being so good to the world if they get an electric car. :rolleyes:

Hang on theres method in the madness, its much more efficient to use powerstations to provide energy for these types of things than it is to use your personal oil burner/petrol car.
 
Hang on theres method in the madness, its much more efficient to use powerstations to provide energy for these types of things than it is to use your personal oil burner/petrol car.

No it isn't. Not by a long shot.

Energy is lost in converting the energy to electricity and transmitting it tens of miles.

It's almost always more efficient to burn the fuel where the energy is being used, like the Gas hob kettle.





The only way an eclectic car can be cleaner is if we go all nuclear.
 
tales less energy to compress air than it does to process oil into petrol !

much less

good idea if they can get it to be efficient enough
 
What a fantastic idea, untill you crash and the car your driving is infact going to have a good chance of exploding. There was an accident involving an ambulance tavelling to an RTA, both paramedics were killed. Not by the impact but from a canister of compressed air rupturing and doing some horrific damage to the ambulance.
 
What a fantastic idea, untill you crash and the car your driving is infact going to have a good chance of exploding.

The problem with their tanks is that they are very strong and when they break it tends to be the valve. Leaving you with a rocket....a very heavy rocket.

It says in the video they are using carbon fibre tanks so they won't do that. They will split which releases the energy in a slightly more controlled fashion. That's the idea anyway.

Its not a bad idea really. The main problem with electric cars is charging. Short of swapping the batteries in and out of the car you must be parked at a charger for however long it takes. If it doesn't take long to charge you are going to have to put an incredible load on the national grid. But then again all these new things seam to come back to electricity in the end.

This way you can create the stored energy in a fixed place slowly then quickly and easily with few engineering problems transfer it to the car. Its a good idea in much the same way that hydrogen is but without any of the technical obsticals.

Lots of this stuff already exists, compressors are well developed, high pressure stuff is readily available, the engine is probably the only bit that needs work and that's fairly trivial compared to ******* about with hydrogen which WILL explode.

I agree the extra energy conversions are a bad idea but the majority of the new energy sources are nothing of the sort. Just new storage methods.

The main concern I see is that the obvious method of compressing the air is with an electric compressor pump, which is all fine and dandy when there's 1 of you or even a few thousand. But if this ever got good market penetration it would bring the national grid to its knees (although less so than rapid battery charging as you could compress slowly). Especially as the gov have dropped the ball on generation capacity.
 
What a fantastic idea, untill you crash and the car your driving is infact going to have a good chance of exploding. There was an accident involving an ambulance tavelling to an RTA, both paramedics were killed. Not by the impact but from a canister of compressed air rupturing and doing some horrific damage to the ambulance.

That was compressed oxygen. There is a big difference :p
 
As soon as someone comes up with a safe hydrogen fuel cell for a car then all of these other alternative fuel ideas and hybrid cars will become a waste of time.

Whoever does find the answer will be as rich as Bill Gates..........times a hundred!
 
As soon as someone comes up with a safe hydrogen fuel cell for a car then all of these other alternative fuel ideas and hybrid cars will become a waste of time.

Whoever does find the answer will be as rich as Bill Gates..........times a hundred!

Producing hydrogen involves splitting hydrocarbons... lots of energy required and what do you do with the other products of the process - methane/carbon monoxide?

If we could just go into space and harvest a nebula cloud and bring back a load of hydrogen then yes it would be awesome. But currently we are stuck with really crappy methods of getting hydrogen.

One of the best fuels is helium 3 that is on the Moon. As crazy as it sounds it's actually very feasible to harvest and bring back to earth and that's why the yankees are planning to build a "moon base" there. To harvest the helium... I think just a single ton of that stuff can power the entire USA for a year...

And again if they ever manage to stablise nuclear fusion then that would be an awesome technology and could eventually be shrunk down to fit under the bonnet of a car...
 
Producing hydrogen involves splitting hydrocarbons... lots of energy required and what do you do with the other products of the process - methane/carbon monoxide?

I know, there's downsides to all of the alternative to fossil fuel engines but because the engine's won't be polluting everyone will want one. Besides, isn't methane a fuel?

Having said that, I can't believe that millions of cars pumping out water vapour isn't going to have some kind of an effect on the environment.
 
Perma-wet roads... I wonder how the government would doctor the road accident statistics to overcome that one! GLOL
 
And again if they ever manage to stablise nuclear fusion then that would be an awesome technology and could eventually be shrunk down to fit under the bonnet of a car...
Ahh. Lets hope not.

However mix it with this and you'll have the perfect combination.

Compressed air is an awsome idea if you have a limitless supply of electricity. Absolutely no waste.

And power is just relative. Bigger tanks, more compression, more power and range. Just because his prototype looks like a pile of crap, doesn't mean the idea is a bad one.
 
I can see this working.

One of the big advantages is the easy with which you can compress air. Wind, solar even stirling engines using geothermal energy. You simply have a standard carbon fibre tank and 'pick' up a new one at the garage - just like sodastream cylinders.

Carbon fibre tank plus air can't weigh much so hopefully good power to weight ratios as well !
 
or just blow it through, might take a smidge longer than filling a petrol tank but not much longer I wouldn't have thought. Doesn't take long to get a scuba tank up to 230 bar!


Best thing is there are no raw materials or exhausts. Not even water vapour! Just air! I'm quite impressed with the simplicity, all the other ideas I've seen are always quite complicated or require massive voltages or some other new technology. This is fantastically achievable NOW, a little work on that motor and obviously package it in a half decent car or three and they are there. You could potentially fit the charging station in your garage. The storage tanks for the air would only need to be as big as the cars (plus a bit for luck). And depending on the pressure compressors simply aren't that expensive. Plug it into the mains (no messing around rejigging the grid to allow massive power where it wasn't before) and off you go.
 
It's definitely an interesting design. I'd like to know a lot more though Anyone found info anywhere else?

They do, however, conveniently avoid the subject of how much energy is used to create enough compressed air to travel say 100 miles, compared to how much fuel is used by a conventional petrol engine to cover the same distance. At the end of the day, it's this that really defines it efficiency.

They also avoid the subject of cost. Those carbon fibre air tanks won't be cheap!
 
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