The Current Government

Superewza said:
1) They had the student vote, and if they'd kept it, by staying true to their word and listening to the will of the people then they could have made something of themselves, because like it or not, the students are the adults of tomorrow.
Click to expand...

But voting habits and political beliefs as students vs the same people as working adults are often very different.

Left wing economic ideals, for example, are dramatically overrepresented in the student population, compared to the population as a whole, and fall off rapidly when people start working and paying tax...
 
Dolph said:
Left wing economic ideals, for example, are dramatically overrepresented in the student population, compared to the population as a whole, and fall off rapidly when people start working and paying tax...
Click to expand...
Quite. “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
 
The Guardian have a blotted jotter on non-doms. Their sneering champagne socialist Polly Toynbee joked that she was having a leaving party for the non-doms, because she was so sure the 30K levy would have no effect.

As shown in the Telegraph (no saints) link above, it has caused a huge amount of tax to be lost.
 
meghatronic said:
Quite. “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
Click to expand...

A good saying, unfortunately it holds no basis in reality. If you're a liberal age 20 then well done on not being conditioned by the state school system. If you're a liberal age 40 then well done for thinking for yourself and not swallowing the lies of the mainstream media.
 
Superewza said:
A good saying, unfortunately it holds no basis in reality. If you're a liberal age 20 then well done on not being conditioned by the state school system. If you're a liberal age 40 then well done for thinking for yourself and not swallowing the lies of the mainstream media.
Click to expand...
Up the medication, sir.

Also, see my points above.
 
meghatronic said:
Quite. “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
Click to expand...

I was conservative at 20, and now I'm swinging to liberal and I'm 35.

When I say libeal I mean liberal I don't mean socialist or any USA definition of the word. I also don't mean liberal democrat since they aren't. I mean liberal as in whig. You could possibly argue more right wing, but I'm socially very left wing and anti-authoritarian.

I do believe I have a heart and a brain :)
 
Superewza said:
I did see them, and i respect your right to disagree. I see no reason why i should counter them, however.
Click to expand...
That's generally what one does in a discussion - you know, the name of this forum. Unless you concede defeat, which I'm forced to conclude based on your unwillingness to enter into a dialogue.
 
meghatronic said:
That's generally what one does in a discussion - you know, the name of this forum. Unless you concede defeat, which I'm forced to conclude based on your unwillingness to enter into a dialogue.
Click to expand...

Question being - where is my obligation to enter into said discussion? Did it ever occur to you that i might have other things to do? Such as revision for my two exams tomorrow? But i might have if your points would not simply have lead to a 'discussion' in which exactly the same points are repeated time and time again being slightly differently worded and not getting anybody anywhere.
 
Superewza said:
A good saying, unfortunately it holds no basis in reality. If you're a liberal age 20 then well done on not being conditioned by the state school system. If you're a liberal age 40 then well done for thinking for yourself and not swallowing the lies of the mainstream media.
Click to expand...

Depends what you mean by a liberal. I'm a classical liberal and I find your views abhorrent, so you're clearly not a liberal...
 
The Halk said:
The Guardian have a blotted jotter on non-doms. Their sneering champagne socialist Polly Toynbee joked that she was having a leaving party for the non-doms, because she was so sure the 30K levy would have no effect.

As shown in the Telegraph (no saints) link above, it has caused a huge amount of tax to be lost.
Click to expand...

The £30k levy was Gideon's idea I believe, and described as a "flea bite" by the current deputy PM. The Telegraph article is laughably bad, based on assumptions and ignores the current economic climate.

OCUK's contention that tax avoidance is all fine and dandy isn't shared by this Treasury spokesman (who is not short of a bob or two himself) http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/26/reel-in-non-doms-tax-cheating?INTCMP=SRCH
 
Superewza said:
Question being - where is my obligation to enter into said discussion? Did it ever occur to you that i might have other things to do? Such as revision for my two exams tomorrow?
Click to expand...
Forgive me, but I interpreted the fact you posted without addressing my comments as an unwillingness to comment, rather than an inability to comment due to time constraints. As you did post, I'm sure you can see the root of my confusion.

Good luck with the exams.
 
Dolph said:
Depends what you mean by a liberal. I'm a classical liberal and I find your views abhorrent, so you're clearly not a liberal...
Click to expand...

Well that point is completely redundant as i can say exactly the same thing back to you.

To be a liberal is to believe in liberty, in the form of equal rights and freedom without having to fear the state or huge corporations or people who think they're better than you because they have more money.


And thanks meghat., to be honest i'm just finding excuses not to revise.
 
sigma said:
You do realise the date and what government that was under? Or are you going to ignore that like you have my posts and add your own words to it too? :D
Click to expand...

You do realise I hold Labour equally as guilty for allowing the culture of tax avoidance to propagate? Your second sentence is not in English.
 
Yep - it doesn't matter who thought it up, the Conservatives are just as guilty of populist policy as labour are.

That Guardian article is worthless. The author is a rabble rousing fool.
 
scorza said:
You do realise I hold Labour equally as guilty for allowing the culture of tax avoidance to propagate? Your second sentence is not in English.
Click to expand...

No I didn't realise that.

Edited my second sentence so that you could understand it. ;) Maybe now you can answer my question?
 
meghatronic said:
I also reject this. I watched and read every interview I could (BBC/Sky/Broadsheets). Not one person gave a compelling argument as to why they were protesting. The general themes were "tripling feeeees omg", "Tory scum", "making the poor pay" and so on.
Click to expand...

I saw a lot of the BBC 24hr coverage too and every time a student started to make a decent point about politicians breaking their promises they would rather abrubtly go back to the studio, perhaps they only aired the interviews which suited their "bunch of anarchists out to cause trouble" angle? how many protests recently have the media not tried to paint as angry anarchists? why do the BBC not call Iranian protestors anarchists for doing much the same thing Iran? agenda perhaps?
 
sigma said:
You do realise the date and what government that was under? Or are you going to ignore that fact, like you have my posts, and add your own words to it? :D
Click to expand...

Nope, still a grammar fail for you I'm afraid. I don't have your posts.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom