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***The DigitalFoundry Face Off Thread***

Lets not forget the cost for each console game is much higher plus the cost to use the online service.

In the end that low cost on the console soon jumps up to match a decent gaming rig. Plus when you buy a gaming pc it's not only a gaming pc it can be used for so much more.

Anyway I think this thread is going alittle OT now guys :D
 
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Am fine with channels getting hardware for free to promote. So long has they stay true to what they already doing it doesn't matter.

The problem is when channels go away from what they used to be for example Linus tech when was the last time you seen him do an unboxing?
Still a great channel but gone are what I used to sub for.

End of the day these are full time jobs, I know first hand how hard this business is for these guys am friends with quite a good few massive Youtube channels and they need to be paid also.
Would you work for Free?? Again so long they remain true to what got them this far they is nothing wrong!!
 
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Least with video footage what you seeing is what you getting!!
And they even in this video show the pros and cons!! It wasn't all HAIL TO THE SLI GODS! This line of work needs hardware, without pay you dont get hardware!! Sponsored deals is how all these channels get the content out! Again so long they remain within what got them there what is the problem? Would you turn down a Titan XP from nvidia if your Little channel was massive??? I very doubt you would!!! LOL

Something DF has always done fair is show what is right and what is wrong!! And they do this miles better than anyone else! Leagues above the them amature review channels ;)

So if you watch a video from DF benchmarking Gears of War 480 vs 1060 Footage showing what is what How do you take that with a pinch of salt? But instead you the first around here to post rubbish Graph results LEL Give it a rest!
 
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I disagree how you can take these videos with a pinch of salt!! When what you see is what you get! But you the first to bang on about a site that post a Gragh.
The fact of the matter is what they get paid or given Does NOT matter!! Its the content thats on show that does.. So long they fair in what the post and so far they have been whats the problem ??

And no I dont work for them LOL my defence is purly disagreeing with your view! Am allowed to do that aren't I??
We all entilted to are own opinion and I do agree there. Buts its also open to be disagreed.
 
fenchu said:
Have to agree here i given up on these kind of reviews many moons ago as it seems quite obvious to me that anyone receiving sample units etc from manufacturer is not going to bite the hand that feeds them. Rather go with real world user feedback these days as more honest :)
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But they not reviewing the product lol they are showcasing SLI in the video. Its a review of SLI and the say the pros and cons.

Reviewing is very different and when talking about reviewing a product that has been sent to them I do agree they will be some channels that won't list the bad things all the time. So I agree there.
 
JediFragger said:
Yup, SLi isn't the best at the moment but better than Crossfire :D

Just hope they both get sorted out for DX12 tbh, RotTR DX12 patch showed what was possible (with the SLi numbers I remember at least!)
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They both as bad each other!
Yeah Deus EX shows excellent DX12 gains also. I firmly believe once DX12 has settled down and more engines and devs have worked with it. I can see MGPU doing very well under DX12
 
Gregster said:
You are still missing the point.

Imagine Asus sending you a GTX 1080 super duper clocker special and asking you to pit it against a Fury X. Would you test it in a game that doesn't work too well with NVidia or would you only show it in a good light?

This is my point and there is many things you can do to hamper the opposition or make the card you have shine more than it possibly should be without altering IQ etc. Do they want to carry on receiving hardware or other things?

If I wanted them to show my product, I would be ****ed off if they made it look rubbish anyways and would think twice before sending them anything else.

On another note, I am up your way New Years Eve in the Kopp watching Liverpool V Man City and me and the Mrs are going on the beer after if you fancy a pint at all?
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And I agree with the Hardware reviewing side of things channels can and do make something look better than it is so the remain getting hardware.
But the SLI video above isn't about the hardware - Its not a product review! They only reviewing SLI they could have used any 1080 or 1070s for it.
The aim of the video was only showcasing what SLI is like and even give the issues of what can happen with SLI when its not working.

They didn't once review the GPUs that was given to them.

Pint I dont drink mate, stopped long time ago thanks for offer though.
 
Doom112 said:
In short summary, Native DX12 games are better on Nvidia like Gears of War 4, Gears of War Ultimate, Forza Apex, Forza Horizon 3. Games ,which has DX12 and DX11 option is better on AMD with DX12, however it is not faster then Nvidia on DX11 with its counter parts.
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Gears of Wars 3 has the 480 and 1060 Match for match TBH

Forza 3 just got a performance update two days ago benchmarks will need re-doing.

Gears is a funny one, because its built very close with Nvidia and using the hardware to its max on DX12 and yet its still neck and neck with the AMD GPU. Plus we then have what Nvidia calls Async Compute VS what AMD calls Async Compute. Gears is meant to not even be using the same Async compute has say Doom for example.
 
Massive performance difference in COD IW an engine that favoured nvidia in the past also.
What ever AMD has done with the 480 and its dx11 is paying off recently.
 
Rroff said:
Zombies using a knife just seems wrong to me :S



Youtube has done 4K for 18-24 months or so if you uploaded in high enough resolution and bitrate.

EDIT: Wow that image quality on the xbox one is terrible when compared to other platforms - I'd be more than a bit miffed if I was a xbox owner - a lot more low resolution or poor iq in effects than they even pickup on in the video.
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They not zombies :p they is more too them than I know so far not completed it yet.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
What I got from that is he discovered that on a PC you have graphics settings that you can tweak. I've known this for some time, so glad he's found it.

Dynamic resolution scaling does seem like a nice feature though, but that's nothing we have control over unless it's added to the game. But even then, that's not really how to run games at higher resolutions, it's about running games at lower resolutions in places.

In short the answer to the question "4K Gaming! What can PC learn from PS4 Pro?", it seems the answer is, don't render it at 4K, use lower resolutions or other techniques to reduce image quality and output it on a 4K screen.
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You missing the point of the video massively. Try watching again :D
 
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