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The disappearance of Nicola Bulley
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Soldato
Police will only release info they want in the public domain.
Only seen twice in fields according to info in BBC article over 23mins, so on the face of it, sounds like she could have been approached by someone without anyone seeing.
The whole thing about her found mobile being on a works call when found on bench raises questions. You would think she would say something to colleague(s) if she was just going to put her mobile down to do something. But then unless her mobile's mic was muted, surely anything untoward happening would be heard by her colleagues.
Hopefully she is found soon, sadly almost certainly dead, and there is no sign of others being involved.
Only seen twice in fields according to info in BBC article over 23mins, so on the face of it, sounds like she could have been approached by someone without anyone seeing.
The whole thing about her found mobile being on a works call when found on bench raises questions. You would think she would say something to colleague(s) if she was just going to put her mobile down to do something. But then unless her mobile's mic was muted, surely anything untoward happening would be heard by her colleagues.
Hopefully she is found soon, sadly almost certainly dead, and there is no sign of others being involved.
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Already covered. She joined her teams call muted, then XYZ happened, and she remained connected to the teams call after the meeting had finished.
It would sound reasonable that she might have been on the call sitting on the bench when the ball went into the river and she just nipped down to retrieve it and fell in.
However, on seeing how shallow the river looks, and how calm it is, and the fact that there is a sort of weir just down river from the bend she was on the bench on, it seems odd that she would not have been found, washed up, or floated up to the surface somewhere.
It's another possibility the police know something more and are keeping it to themselves, very common for police to do this, as we have seen from the Kohlberger case in the US where they were being criticised by public know-it-alls, but all the time were tracking their man and building evidence.
I've had a look at the scene, and I've no idea how you could snatch a woman on a popular dog walkers path, and get her out of there in broad daylight without anyone noticing.
It's all so curious, and very interesting, but to me right now the dogs ball going into the river and her thinking she could just nip down and get it and go right back to the teams meeting SEEMS the most likely to me. A pure guess of course!
The police haven't even told the family why they have made this theory the only one.
So far according to the family the police have no evidence for this theory.
www.theguardian.com
www.standard.co.uk
They would have told the family of the evidence, especially if they were challenging the theory.
Who are the police to tell people not to speculate!? There is no court case going on. It's more likely this cop leading it doesn't want her theory challenged. Because maybe she'd have to answer why shes eliminated all over theories.
The family are now demanding the police show the evidence to them.
So far according to the family the police have no evidence for this theory.
Police seeking ‘key witness’ in search for missing Nicola Bulley
A woman pushing pram near where dog walker went missing was captured on CCTV
www.theguardian.com
Nicola Bulley: Family and friends claim there is ‘no evidence’ she fell into river
Ms Bulley’s sister, Louise Cunningham, urged people to ‘keep an open mind’ as there is ‘no evidence whatsoever’ that the dog walker fell in the river
www.standard.co.uk
They would have told the family of the evidence, especially if they were challenging the theory.
Who are the police to tell people not to speculate!? There is no court case going on. It's more likely this cop leading it doesn't want her theory challenged. Because maybe she'd have to answer why shes eliminated all over theories.
The family are now demanding the police show the evidence to them.
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It's indeed a very odd situation, I hope she somehow is going to be alive but at this point I think it's unlikely.
That particular river is very slow flowing and as shallow as 30cm in places or as much as 7m in others, considering that and how twist it is its expect a person to easily get caught on some branches or just due to its depth.
If I was near Blackpool I'd get the kayak in that river and trudge up and down its length looking
That particular river is very slow flowing and as shallow as 30cm in places or as much as 7m in others, considering that and how twist it is its expect a person to easily get caught on some branches or just due to its depth.
If I was near Blackpool I'd get the kayak in that river and trudge up and down its length looking
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As demonstrated with great accuracy by the next two pages of this thread. It's the way people present their wacky ideas as "the only logical way it could have happened" that is really fun.
An idea without evidence... After reviewing all the evidence they do have.
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Just terrible and it sounds like the police are making an absolute meal of it. Ages to cordon anything off, wishful thinking that she fell in yet no such evidence. Terrible for the family.
You’d think they’d have found evidence in the river by now.
You’d think they’d have found evidence in the river by now.
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St Michael's is one of the floodiest places in north Lancashire. The water level and speed of that river change drastically in no time at all.
edit: and wiki says it is tidal below St Michael's
edit: and wiki says it is tidal below St Michael's
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Family saying they don't take a ball on walks as the dog used to be obsessed so for the past year just walk the dog without, seems like the dog likes the water but eye witness first to find the dog says it was bone dry. As anyone who owns a springer knows its very strange the dog didn't enter the water if she went in ours would be in the water immediately if we went in.
You keep repeating this, yet the police haven't stated nor implied they have evidence she fell in, they said it's their main working hypothesis based on the fact they have no current indication she left the area via other means and that there's no sign nor suggestion of third-party involvement. Again, this was all in the press briefing given yesterday.
They were there on the day gathering evidence from and searching the area, the cordons more recently were to keep people away while the dive teams were searching again.
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As I was reading down the replies I was wondering if the river may have been in flood at that time, which can happen so quickly.
Soldato
i don’t think it was, at least not according to the river station at
GaugeMap – Latest River, Flow and Groundwater Levels Map for Britain & Ireland
River, Flow and Groundwater level updates from over 3,000 Environment Agency stations.
www.gaugemap.co.uk
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i don’t think it was, at least not according to the river station at
GaugeMap – Latest River, Flow and Groundwater Levels Map for Britain & Ireland
River, Flow and Groundwater level updates from over 3,000 Environment Agency stations.
Then I wonder if the police have other evidence they don't want to make public for now then??
They shouldn't be putting any theory out there.
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My great-uncle fell in a river and drowned. It was known exactly when and where he fell in. He wasn't found for 2 weeks. Just 200m away.
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She either fell in the river or it was an inside job.
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Something similar happened around here, a guy that worked at the local supermarket fell in a stream, they knew roughly where he fell in from his phone's last location/he'd been at a friends house (which was next to a bridge), there was only one route it could go because the stream joins a river and no chance of it hitting the sea or a lake for a very long time.
IIRC it still took them nearly 2 months to find the body despite a very intensive search with the searchers going down the river/stream multiple times including once the water had dropped enough walking side by side across the whole width of it..
From memory he was found when the water level dropped.
In the summer the stretch of stream he fell in is only inches deep (often not covering all the sand in the bottom), in the winter it can be 6 foot deep and deadly, with lots of branches that can catch things but that level can vary in hours (it can be barely 10cm deep in the morning and over 3m deep in the afternoon if the weather is right).
People tend to have no idea how fast/powerful even "shallow" water can be (about 20-30cm of fast flowing water can be enough to knock you over from memory), or how hard it can be to find a body in water.
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