The disappearance of Nicola Bulley

GaryTheSnail said:
It won't. They will still be on the next case.
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Not so sure about that - who needs expensive sonar when you could just look out of the window..

www.telegraph.co.uk

Nicola Bulley blame game as search expert insists body location ‘not in our remit’

Peter Faulding clashes with ex-Lancashire police chief after stating that missing mother of two was ‘categorically’ not in the river
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In a new statement on Monday morning, Mr Faulding hit back at "unfair criticism" and "negativity".

He claimed: "Sadly, the discovery was not found in the river but in the reeds at the side of the river which was not part of our remit as the side scan sonar does not penetrate reeds above or below the water."

However, he admitted for the first time that he did search the exact stretch where the body was found "for four hours on our first day and then upstream past the weir on the subsequent two days".

It has sparked a blame game between search teams over how the body was not found for three weeks, despite the police making a river fall their main hypothesis from the outset.

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Bob Eastwood, who headed the force's eastern division before retiring in 2013, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "The dramas the police have had to deal with during this, it's been on colossal scale and I think it's a watershed moment in how policing going forward deals... [with] the use of so-called specialists.

"I think in this case [they] imposed themselves on the investigation and Nicola’s family, and I’m hoping their consciences are currently in overdrive.”

He added that the way the specialists behaved in the investigation “actually fed into a lot of people’s obsession” and "they got quite a lot of it wrong".
 
I think it will impact them too.

There was no need for the head of the independent dive team to say "she's not in the river".
It was premature, presumptuous and quite frankly, stupid.

They got involved with the press. He made some unbacktrackable claims.. And tried to back track.


They've come out of this looking poor.


If I was the police (or whoever funds these things) I certainly would think twice about paying this dive team for services.
 
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Screeeech said:
Not suggested any theories? :cry:

You're like a bingo machine throwing out theories tbh,
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They are all the polices theories

The 3 theories they said at the first press conference was that;

1. She had fallen in the water.

2. She had left the area herself.

3. She had left the area with someone else.
 
GaryTheSnail said:
Then nothings been picked up. Just happens that she was found under a bush. It happens.

Unless ofc she was put there but everyone will have to wait until info has been released.

They will know.
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Funny I dont remember this expert saying anything about reeds when he was spewing all over the media.
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
Then nothings been picked up. Just happens that she was found under a bush. It happens.

Unless ofc she was put there but everyone will have to wait until info has been released.

They will know.
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If that guy had just gone about his job and kept his conversations with the police he'd be fine. But he literally said "she's not in that river". He volenteered that. He didn't have to say it.
 
You know what's going to happen next.
If police say its her the nutters are going to be out saying she was put there.
Or that there's a cover up. Etc etc.

Its surprising its taking this long to identify its her (or the remote chance is not). But if its a messy situation I don't blame police for wanting to be 100 percent sure
 
I don't mean this in a callous way but I'm a bit surprised how much media attention this has gotten (to be clear, I'm saying I'm surprised, not that it is wrong for it to receive attention). Even my son mentioned her name yesterday having picked up on the story in the news etc and he's not really one for current affairs.
ANDREW GREEN said:
I'll tell you what, jump into a river when it's 3-4 degrees and see how your body responds to cold shock in order to prove your theory.
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Thankfully I've never had to experience that but I do remember at school jumping in an outdoor swimming pool and literally finding myself short of breath, it was a bizarre / scary situation where I felt like I couldn't breathe and was almost paralyzed for a while. Obviously I survived but probably the swimming pool was slightly warmer, no current, people on hand to give me advice etc.
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
I'll tell you what, jump into a river when it's 3-4 degrees and see how your body responds to cold shock in order to prove your theory.



Each person responds differently.. you say the above but I assure you there are people that do this activity in even colder waters as a recreational activity.. there is a dedicated Facebook group in our local area for.open water swimming who partake all year round.

But yes you are not far off In stating it can be fatal
 
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