Big difference between wild swimming in correct gear vs falling in and not expecting it while wearing a massive coat that quickly becomes a 100kg chain dragging you down.
The disappearance of Nicola Bulley
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That's a different scenario entirely to falling or jumping in.
Those people will have eased into it and they are prepared for what to do as they enter the water.
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I'm guessing the autopsy should indicate how long the body has been in the water reasonably accurately. I suppose the only twist that can come now is if the autopsy ends up saying that the body has only been in the water for a week or something. That would get the theorists going again.
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Few times I've fallen into cold water (really cold) I've reacted in instinct. I didn't shout out I just tried to quickly rectify the situation.
This required getting to bank of the river and getting my clothes off. At no point did I think about shouting for help.
Most will drop to instinct. Especially without any practice. And everyone is different.
I was cold the whole day. I got back to my car, turned the heating on full blast. Got home had a bath.
Wasn't warm until the next day.
That particular occasion I didn't even fall in completely. I was half wet (feet to waist) trying to get in my kayak. If I had gone fully in? Who knows.
This required getting to bank of the river and getting my clothes off. At no point did I think about shouting for help.
Most will drop to instinct. Especially without any practice. And everyone is different.
I was cold the whole day. I got back to my car, turned the heating on full blast. Got home had a bath.
Wasn't warm until the next day.
That particular occasion I didn't even fall in completely. I was half wet (feet to waist) trying to get in my kayak. If I had gone fully in? Who knows.
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No wetsuit? Should really have one for cold weather kayaking.
I get way too hot in a wetsuit. Really need a dry suit.
Yeah you do *wink wink*
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It's a different story if you fall all the way in. Cold water shock triggers a bunch of reflexes that will completely override your instincts and conscious actions - your blood pressure shoots up and you will gasp with the shock of the cold - if your face is under water when this happens you will inhale a bunch of water and trigger a laryngospasm. You're not going to get in any more air at that point until you're hypoxic enough that the spasm releases. Your instinct will be to try and swim (or thrash about) as soon as you recover your wits but this is a bad thing as your body is still in a shocked condition and you're still hyperventilating. None of which is conducive to survival.
On the training courses I've attended, a person overboard in UK waters automatically warrants a mayday call even if you can recover them quickly, as the physiological results of the cold water shock need medical attention ASAP.
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Only last week I watched an Air Ambulance program and a Father & Son went into the sea to rescue a man.
Within a minute his sons body shut down so he went to deal with him and shouted "Sorry got to deal with my son but lie on your back and float".
By the time the father got his son out he was now in shock and hypothermia and it was touch & go that he would survive.
Air Sea Rescue also turned up and they got the Father and Son to ED.
While in there the Father recovered but was now suffering from remorse for not saving the man and then he heard his sons voice.
They started shouting to each other because they were in cubicles and the Father started crying about the man he couldn't save.
A voice then shouted "I'm here and your suggestion of lying on my back worked".
Anyway, just goes to show what cold water does.
Yeah absolutely. I was sure glad to only go half way in. No one would have found me out there in that river should the worst have happened either.
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Now that you mentioned her
Karen Matthews has cigarette 15 years after staging daughter's kidnap
Karen Matthews, 47, became a household name exactly 15 years ago when her nine-year-old daughter Shannon went missing in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.
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Karen Matthews has cigarette 15 years after staging daughter's kidnap
Karen Matthews, 47, became a household name exactly 15 years ago when her nine-year-old daughter Shannon went missing in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.
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Now that you mentioned her
Lock her up!
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Absolutely, this is the right thing to do. Float and relax until you get your breathing under control.
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They are going to announce the body is actually ET who fell out of his flying saucer when they were beaming her up aren't they 
They are going to announce the body is actually ET who fell out of his flying saucer when they were beaming her up aren't they
I think there may be another plot twist but we'll see..
This makes zero sense. One comment basically says you have only posted what the Police have said. The very next sentence says you've posted your opinion on this, but not only that, they have been 'nuanced' which by definition means "characterized by subtle shades of meaning or expression". It has been suggested that that subtlety has been anti-police...