*** The Division Thread 2.0 ***

toM123 said:
But they are nerfing the named NPC drops,

'Named NPCs in the Underground now have increased drop rates for High-End gear, across all difficulties'

I read that as less gear set items and more high end, this will make the directives the best source of gear set especially as they now drop 1.1 & 1.2.
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I don't think this is a nerf. They've since edited the post on the ubisoft forums to show this instead

"Named NPCs in the Underground now have increased drop rates across all difficulties and doing multiple phase operations will give you a better chance at higher quality gear.”

That's makes much more sense.
 
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tek81 said:
Gamble, when you finalise your AB build, could you please post it? I'm also using AB. Two variations - One for PVE and one for PVP. I wouldn't mind seeing how they compare.

Also, does anyone know where the **** I can loot some BLIND gloves? It's the very last thing I need to complete my build. Almost two weeks of DZ and hardmode UG and nothing. Drving me mad.
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Of course! I will mess about with it later and maybe post a work in progress shot so you can see what I am focusing on.

Idleman said:
Got the majority of my BLIND and Firecrest gear from the UG. It's about all I do get on UG.
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Luckily, that wont be the case much longer :)

Im just glad, we have more options for Heroic content to get different gear. As up until today the only viable options were FL/DN on Heroic for me to get gear I wanted....and DN farming is boring now due to how easy it is.

Fr0dders said:
I don't think this is a nerf. They've since edited the post on the ubisoft forums to show this instead

"Named NPCs in the Underground now have increased drop rates across all difficulties and doing multiple phase operations will give you a better chance at higher quality gear.”

That's makes much more sense. They're saying you've got a higher chance of gearsets now.
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Much better indeed!
 
JediFragger said:
Got ganked by rogues last night in 1 second in the DZ with Tek last night, that's with 520k toughness too. No ****ing chance!!! :(
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That was crazy. 500k toughness and downed in a second. Tbh, I'm having a load of bad luck with the DZ at the moment. Dropped from rank 75 to 72 in two days due to either rogues or shotgunning npcs. Managed to loot a god roll mp7 for my alpha build, but still no ****ing gloves!!! Going to head to the UG tonight instead.
 
I've got one with Deadly Responsive which i've paired to my almost god roll 204 Aug which had Self Preserved, Brutal and Fierce in the 3rd slot. So: Brutal, Deadly, Responsive, Fierce, Self Preserved.

Got it paired with a 100 % mag size extended magazine with 13.5 % weapon damage and chc / hs dmg scope and chd muzzel.running 27.5 crit hit chance and 211 % crit hit damage.

Used it in PVE, not that impressed tbh. The enemies have so much health the 40 round magazine just isn't enough. This makes it a nightmare to run in the DZ as you can't get close enough to use it close range as you just get wiped out as soon as you've splurged your first mag and need to run away and reload again. And because its alpha bridge you have to run another SMG so have no long range alternative to swap out to.

The build seems great on paper, but its very situational.
 
As i said many times (and some probably wont agree with me) - DZ is a failed experiment to make SP and MULTI game into one.It just doesnt work and makes players frustrated and leave.Want PvP - -make separate arena or whatever.No other RPG game makes you lose xp/creds/etc. if you die.
There are many very good posts on reddit how to make DZ playable again,but Massive is to stubborn with they "love child DZ" to change anything.You can form 3 groups of 4 and gank whole server.There is no balance in PvP,no matter what PvP lovers say.
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Is this normal ??
Momos pic btw

Heck,they cant make balance in PvE even.
Todays PvP in DZ - shot first,you win,if you getting shot you basically have no time to react.The first shots-wins.I dont see any fun in this.Unless you in a mood to just laugh at others (like me yesterday)..
I have no clue why they cant change DZ a bit -is this Ubi controlling,or is this Massive dont want accept that DZ is fail.
 
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Anyone interested in setting up a heroic UG group this evening? I have about 30 intel to splurge through, so no issues there.
 
tek81 said:
That was crazy. 500k toughness and downed in a second. Tbh, I'm having a load of bad luck with the DZ at the moment. Dropped from rank 75 to 72 in two days due to either rogues or shotgunning npcs. Managed to loot a god roll mp7 for my alpha build, but still no ****ing gloves!!! Going to head to the UG tonight instead.
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Momo can rip through my 717k build as well now with ab so yeah...dz is crazy.

Mario - I agree! We spent what, 3 hours going rogue last night and we survived every encounter until the last because of several reasons:

*better geared
*largest encounter was us 4 vs 5 other players not in same group
*upper hand in team tactics or positioning on map/area
*playing smart

Now based on the above during that time, pvp and dz was a success as people were fighting us in equal groups and were just being beaten on better gear and experience.

However......the last 30 minutes to 1 hour of play, falls right into what you were saying. 8 man squads grouping up which led to a 12 man squad grouping up and camping checkpoints to get us.

This is where the problem is. When its 4v4 or 2v2 etc it is great fun, but the massive groups is where dz fails and there is no way to fix this or prevent several groups grouping up, in the current DZ environment.

Only way to fix it is to make dz pve only with more difficulty(I don't think that would be too hard, addin perameter to not be able to shoot other players - just like within groups) and more variety and then have a pvp only arena outside of the DZ, Like deathmatches, tdm, ctf, holding areas etc but it cannot be a free roam type thing. It would need setup screens, like most games do like TDM in BF4 etc.
 
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markthechef said:
for those struggling with heroic runs just watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbTGyRx8a2I&feature=youtu.be skill up vid /The Division | 6 Tips To Make Heroic PVE Content Easy (Carry Match-Made Groups)
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I have said this to lots of people from the beginning, always run a DPS build and a support build so that you have the choice when matchmaking and will open up more options when matchmaking also.

I hope the above comes across to people as focusing on having two builds - one DPS and one support and not focusing on support only.

There are some cool builds out there though, reclaimer support, sentry support which do some damage as well.

This is where the argument for interrogation came from...as I know some people on here (including myself) run several options hence ask at the start what build people are running so that they know what to equip for themselves.

I have Sentry/savage and a tactician with high toughness and electronics and I am working on a support reclaimer as well so that I cover all scenarios.


Has anyone run the UG today to see what sort of drops they are getting?
 
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JediFragger said:
Yup, I'm in. Only have 99 Intel though..... :p

If we have no Tactitian I can run it or Reclaimer with a good skill level (40k) :)
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:O lol! 99 :D

Sounds like a tidy reclaimer build man, I think the reclaimer with high SP is perfect.

I had to get rid of my reclaimer as I stupidly made a DPS reclaimer when 1.3 first came out, D'OH!
 
I'll be on at about 7pm. Would like to do some on Friday as well ED:)

Has Momo posted his build on the forum? Would love to know how he has made his AB build so effective. Here's where I am at present (sans BLIND gloves!!! ).

220k Dps, 497k toughness, 12k elec
4 x AB - All rolled with either pulse crit damage or pulse duration
2 x Mp7's - 42% Crit damage, 10.7k. Brutal, Deadly, Destructive + Unforgiving, Self Preserved, Sustained
22.50 Crit chance
192% Crit damage
75% mitigation.

Admittedly the Firecrest gloves I am using a re complete ******* trash (620 firearms) and I could do with rolling some stamina off and into elec instead, but....Despite it being a solid pve build, I don't do all that well in pvp. That could however, be down to me being ****e at pvp.
 
Mario said:
Exactly Gamble

Cant remember what UG bosses droping before,but just now got 4 drops,1 green 3 yellows
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It was fun though while it lasted :P

And thanks Mario, that seems a bit low tbh, was that 2 phase Hero?

tek81 said:
I'll be on at about 7pm. Would like to do some on Friday as well ED:)

Has Momo posted his build on the forum? Would love to know how he has made his AB build so effective. Here's where I am at present (sans BLIND gloves!!! ).

220k Dps, 497k toughness, 12k elec
4 x AB - All rolled with either pulse crit damage or pulse duration
2 x Mp7's - 42% Crit damage, 10.7k. Brutal, Deadly, Destructive + Unforgiving, Self Preserved, Sustained
22.50 Crit chance
192% Crit damage
75% mitigation.

Admittedly the Firecrest gloves I am using a re complete ******* trash (620 firearms) and I could do with rolling some stamina off and into elec instead, but....Despite it being a solid pve build, I don't do all that well in pvp. That could however, be down to me being ****e at pvp.
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Mom's build and mind is almost the same in terms of firearms and toughness (I think, don't quote me on that) but our electronics is a bit different and he uses an MP5 most of the time with slightly different talents.

I can already see on yours you have focused on toughness more as all my builds(minus tactician) not sit around 400k toughness. I don't see the point in having more tbh, as you get floored just as quick in PVE and PVP.

So here is a breakdown on mine:
250k DPS with 2xMP7 (Firearms is around 3500-3600
390k toughness
30k SP

4x Alphabridge with Reckless Chest and Savage gloves

Mp7 talents are....Vicious, capable, brutal, deadly, responsive, Swift. (not the best but working on it)

CHC and CHD I posted on the previous page.

I will fill in the blanks, I just need to login to discord to check but can only do it on my work laptop lol

EDIT: Blanks filled in :)

I can cap my pulse, and get an 18.5k MP7 under smart cover so 30k skill works well and a lot of the PVP clans are following the same trend it seems.
 
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I was with my alt,did on hard just to see drop diff in UG
Probably need to do on heroic to see real diff

Oh,and from last night in DZ.... MHUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D
 
Mario said:
I was with my alt,did on hard just to see drop diff in UG
Probably need to do on heroic to see real diff

Oh,and from last night in DZ.... MHUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D
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Ah yeah, Heroic UG would be the main test for sure over 3 phase (as apparently the drop rate is better in 3 phase)

Your laughing had me in hysterics last night, it was so funny. Crazy Russians!
 
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