*** The Division Thread 2.0 ***

Some interesting stats in the SOTG.

I logged on the 15th to get the free items... nothing I received advanced my character. Logged out, will try again on the 1st.

Cheers

If you are in the UG you need to leave before you get the message appear about the supply drop. i got mine on the 15th with no issues :D
 
Why do people keep saying "roll on Division 2"?

If they can't get the first game right, what the hell makes you think a second game will be any better. It has been one **** up after another. I just think they have lost direction, the plot they lost a long time ago. They have taken what should have been a truly great game and run it into the ground. I cannot think of one thing Ubi/Massive have done lately that has benefited the game or the overall playing experience.
At present you farm DN 4HM, for the best gear, then when you have the build(s) you want, then what do you do? Doing Incursions is pretty pointless, as it is quicker and more rewarding farming DN.
I don't go into the DZ anymore, as you are more likely to lose XP than to gain any and the rewards are not worth the risk.
I got one alt up to lvl40 in the UG, but wont be doing any more, as the grind for XP becomes laborious from 30>40.
Not played this game in 5 days and sad to say, I have not missed it. After investing 1200+ hours into this game, starting to lose interest. The only thing I have done in the last couple of weeks is farm 4HM, I still don't have the builds I would like, but then what will I do when I have them?
In all honesty, this game needs a massive(excuse the pun) shake up, needs someone with a bit of vision to steer it in the right direction. But I can't see that happening, they made too many changes and most of them have not worked out the way they were intended.
We have another DLC due soon, so I will likely see how that plays out and probably start looking for another game to play.
 
Why do people keep saying "roll on Division 2"?

If they can't get the first game right, what the hell makes you think a second game will be any better. It has been one **** up after another. I just think they have lost direction, the plot they lost a long time ago. They have taken what should have been a truly great game and run it into the ground. I cannot think of one thing Ubi/Massive have done lately that has benefited the game or the overall playing experience.

The issue here is time and money.

Given infinite amounts of both, they could quite easily address all of the community complaints with the game and make it amazing. It would be a different game to what we got in the post on release day.

But the thing is, most of the development team at massive will have moved on. There's a great article on the ubisoft blog abouw how they made underground. It was done by UK based Ubisoft Reflections in Newcastle. (article here https://blog.ubi.com/en-GB/divisions-procedural-underground/) The main team who made the division have no doubt moved onto the next project leaving only the live team to support the game going forwards. I'd guess this team is barely in double figures in size Probably less than 20.

A team of this size can't possibly make all the changes that are needed. When division 2 comes around, they can devote the full resources into making a sequel that has learned from all of the mistakes they made and rectified them.

They could have course do a Destiny, scrap the roadmap, scrap the sequel (Destiny's Rise of Iron only came about because Destiny 2 was supposed to be releasing this Fall but they postponed it) and focus a large amount of resources on fixing the issues. But given ubisofts reputation, and the language coming out of SOTG yesterday, I wouldn't hold out hope on that.

how has this game come along over the last few months patch wise?

has performance been improved over time?

Performance wise, as in how many FPS your rig gets ?
 
Why do people keep saying "roll on Division 2"?

If they can't get the first game right, what the hell makes you think a second game will be any better. It has been one **** up after another. I just think they have lost direction, the plot they lost a long time ago. They have taken what should have been a truly great game and run it into the ground. I cannot think of one thing Ubi/Massive have done lately that has benefited the game or the overall playing experience.
At present you farm DN 4HM, for the best gear, then when you have the build(s) you want, then what do you do? Doing Incursions is pretty pointless, as it is quicker and more rewarding farming DN.
I don't go into the DZ anymore, as you are more likely to lose XP than to gain any and the rewards are not worth the risk.
I got one alt up to lvl40 in the UG, but wont be doing any more, as the grind for XP becomes laborious from 30>40.
Not played this game in 5 days and sad to say, I have not missed it. After investing 1200+ hours into this game, starting to lose interest. The only thing I have done in the last couple of weeks is farm 4HM, I still don't have the builds I would like, but then what will I do when I have them?
In all honesty, this game needs a massive(excuse the pun) shake up, needs someone with a bit of vision to steer it in the right direction. But I can't see that happening, they made too many changes and most of them have not worked out the way they were intended.
We have another DLC due soon, so I will likely see how that plays out and probably start looking for another game to play.

People are saying roll on div 2, because it is a fresh start instead of trying to fix this version.

Im bored of 4hm, as I don't care about the gear anymore. I have enough gear to get me through all content now so would rather have fun than continually grind but most people do 4HM, and solo play sucks lol

I am still hopeful.
 
I will be surprised if there will be Division 2.
90% of players who bought this Division not going to buy Division 2 for obvious reasons.Especially if its still Ubi/Massive tandem.
I never saw such a good game idea destroyed so easily in my gaming years.Even Romero's Daikatana now looks like masterpiece..
They can say "we going to fix it in next few weeks"-im hopeful,but i dont trust a word from them anymore.If they fix it - brilliant,if not-not big loss,many new games coming,some of them GOTY material.
I cant motivate myself to do even 4min 4hm runs anymore,i log in,ask if there a free spot (even tho someone asked 1min ago if any wants to do farming),no reply,log off-problem solved.
I cant even imagine how they going to fix without breaking anything else,not a chance.They just doing damage control now.Even cheats not afraid to go in DZ again,as they thinking like this i think "games fcked,if i get ban who cares".

Just posting this here for a good memories :( :
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as am i. im keeping all of my limbs crossed for the supposed news next week.

it's kind of good that they're not pushing forward with survival because of the issues, maybe they can give the balance more attention because of this.

I agree, survival should be the last thing on their mind at the moment, but the powers at be may push it regardless
 
I agree, survival should be the last thing on their mind at the moment, but the powers at be may push it regardless

Massive have contract with Ubi and Ubi dont care if game has problems (unfortunately),DLC=money,so yes,they will push it no matter what they said in SOTG,maybe 1 week delay max
 
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they might have contract for X amount of DLC a year but i very much doubt release dates are set in concrete for many reasons.
 
they might have contract for X amount of DLC a year but i very much doubt release dates are set in concrete for many reasons.

If believe some peeps on various forums,its quite set in stone sadly
DLC timing is not a major problem tbh
The really should do something so it is possible to play solo,because to find group now will be quite hard.Solo is in much needed love in this game
 
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I think it was mentioned that the DLC may well be done in other affiliate development studios with dedicated teams, and they would have been working on Survival already due to the stated release date.

However, if this is a case, it will be segmented code like UG would have been, therefore any major changes to the game structure now wont be included in the Survival patch so they have two options:

Release survival first with a clear goal of a day 1 patch or something to fix all the issues.

Fix the game as it is currently, and spend the time applying those fixes within the survival patch and then adding it in.
 
I think it was mentioned that the DLC may well be done in other affiliate development studios with dedicated teams, and they would have been working on Survival already due to the stated release date.

However, if this is a case, it will be segmented code like UG would have been, therefore any major changes to the game structure now wont be included in the Survival patch so they have two options:

Release survival first with a clear goal of a day 1 patch or something to fix all the issues.

Fix the game as it is currently, and spend the time applying those fixes within the survival patch and then adding it in.

Underground was done by Ubisoft Reflections in Newcastle here in the UK.

I highly expect that the team producing the DLC won't be the ones fixing the current game.

Whatever works,as long as they do something about this


They will do something. I highly expect the next DLC to launch with a big update which will fix some of the issues they are talking about like difficulty and NPC damage / health balance. Will they fix all the issues ? doubt it.
 
I went in on Wednesday night I think it was, not that late, about 11pm and there was no one on. And not just discord, no one in game on my friends list either. Picked up my supply drop and logged off.
 
I went in on Wednesday night I think it was, not that late, about 11pm and there was no one on. And not just discord, no one in game on my friends list either. Picked up my supply drop and logged off.

same here most of the time :(
just weeks ago i had quite a lot of more people on my FL playing Div :(
really sad state of the game
 
Im always on when i can be, if no one else is on i then just get on with my UG rank as 37 now so getting there.

I sometimes see Gamble and Jedi on as well.

I shall be on tonight if anyone needs a space filling farming DN or UG heroics etc
 
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