The Emirates FA Cup 4th Round Proper ** Spoilers ** [22nd - 26th Jan 2021]

If Kepa was a race horse he'd have been sent to the glue factory by now. He's quite possibly the worst signing in the PL era.
 
If Kepa was a race horse he'd have been sent to the glue factory by now. He's quite possibly the worst signing in the PL era.

Pepe? I think that could be a close one.

I just haven't seen anything from Kepa to suggest he was raw but quality. They paid so much money for him and hes never done anything special.
 
Pepe? I think that could be a close one.

I just haven't seen anything from Kepa to suggest he was raw but quality. They paid so much money for him and hes never done anything special.
Pepe's bad but there are worse players than him. I'm struggling to think of a PL keeper that's as bad as Kepa, ignoring the fact that he was the most expensive keeper of all time.
 
Pepe's bad but there are worse players than him. I'm struggling to think of a PL keeper that's as bad as Kepa, ignoring the fact that he was the most expensive keeper of all time.

I don't watch enough of the lower teams in the league to make that comparison for Kepa but on pure awful value I think they are both pretty close.

I wonder what they would both go for if they sold in the summer? £15m on the hope they recover some form?
 
I don't watch enough of the lower teams in the league to make that comparison for Kepa but on pure awful value I think they are both pretty close.

I wonder what they would both go for if they sold in the summer? £15m on the hope they recover some form?
They're both almost impossible to sell. They'll be earning huge money, far more than what any club that might take them could afford. Kepa's situation at Chelsea is even more complicated by their transfer strategy of relying on 'profit on player sales' to balance their books in regards to FFP. Kepa is currently worth around £45m on their accounts - every £ they sell him for less than that will be recorded as a loss on this seasons books.
 
That's the most likely outcome but even that's tricky. He's that bad that Chelsea will end up having to pay the majority of his wages to get somebody to take him.
 
I understand that part of what attracts a player to a club is the salary and given 2 similar bids, the selling club probably don't care too much where the player goes but I'm surprised how many clubs equate transfer fee to salary. If you are buying on the hope of future stardom then you shouldn't be paying them higher wages right now.

So many players are "stuck" at clubs because no one will pay their wages and ultimately, a lot of players would rather rot in the reserves than take a pay cut.
 
#LFC line up today: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, R. Williams, Fabinho, Robertson, Thiago, Wijnaldum, Milner, Jones, Salah, Firmino.

Subs: Kelleher, Mane, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Minamino, Tsimikas, Shaqiri, Origi, Phillips, N. Williams.

Again minamino isn't getting a chance.

Instead we're sticking with Bobby who has like rest of the first xi been turd for past month.
 
Klopp trolling Mark again :p

Could be completely wrong but I wonder whether we're going to set up with some sort of back 3/5, either with Robertson as a LCB and Milner wingback or one of Milner or Wijnaldum as a 3rd CB.
I understand that part of what attracts a player to a club is the salary and given 2 similar bids, the selling club probably don't care too much where the player goes but I'm surprised how many clubs equate transfer fee to salary. If you are buying on the hope of future stardom then you shouldn't be paying them higher wages right now.

So many players are "stuck" at clubs because no one will pay their wages and ultimately, a lot of players would rather rot in the reserves than take a pay cut.
I'm not too sure there's a great deal clubs can do regarding the link between fees and wages. It's very difficult to pay a world record fee for a keeper and then argue to him and his agent that he's only worth a £40k per week contract, when the average first team player at Chelsea is earning £100k per week.

Wage structures are broadly linked to how successful a club is and when revenues increase, whether that's due to TV deals, European money or commercial deals, players and their agents will demand their cut of it as they'll argue that they create that revenue. As above, clubs can't pay new signings less than the players they're being signed to replace/improve upon (especially when the fee is so high) and when they're unsuccessful, it's very difficult to find a club of a similar level that will be interested in taking them. The vast majority of time the only way is down and those clubs simply cannot afford the wages.
 
Klopp trolling Mark again :p

Could be completely wrong but I wonder whether we're going to set up with some sort of back 3/5, either with Robertson as a LCB and Milner wingback or one of Milner or Wijnaldum as a 3rd CB.

I'm not too sure there's a great deal clubs can do regarding the link between fees and wages. It's very difficult to pay a world record fee for a keeper and then argue to him and his agent that he's only worth a £40k per week contract, when the average first team player at Chelsea is earning £100k per week.

Wage structures are broadly linked to how successful a club is and when revenues increase, whether that's due to TV deals, European money or commercial deals, players and their agents will demand their cut of it as they'll argue that they create that revenue. As above, clubs can't pay new signings less than the players they're being signed to replace/improve upon (especially when the fee is so high) and when they're unsuccessful, it's very difficult to find a club of a similar level that will be interested in taking them. The vast majority of time the only way is down and those clubs simply cannot afford the wages.
Trolling me aside there must be a reason we don't play him?

He was very good in Palace game, how can we ever expect to see him settle in team when he doesn't get the chances.

At least now when the team over all has been poor, let the bloke have a run of games.

Same with Rhys Williams, why move Henderson back in the league games let him play then least allows Henderson back in the middle
 
Trolling me aside there must be a reason we don't play him?
There is. He clearly doesn't think he's as good as the players he's picking.

Likewise with Williams. Klopp believes that Henderson + Fab at CB with Thiago, Gini + 1 in midfield is stronger than Williams + Fab at CB with Thiago, Gini & Hendo in midfield. Klopp clearly doesn't rate Williams particularly highly or just doesn't think he's ready yet, to the point that he's only played him when we've had no CB's and been short in midfield, meaning Henderson had to play there.
 
Be nice to win it but it's a bit meh really isn't it.

Hopefully won't be as dull as the last game as there's less pressure really.
 
There is. He clearly doesn't think he's as good as the players he's picking.

Likewise with Williams. Klopp believes that Henderson + Fab at CB with Thiago, Gini + 1 in midfield is stronger than Williams + Fab at CB with Thiago, Gini & Hendo in midfield. Klopp clearly doesn't rate Williams particularly highly or just doesn't think he's ready yet, to the point that he's only played him when we've had no CB's and been short in midfield, meaning Henderson had to play there.
But when we're on a run like this and isn't one stand out performer surely a good time to mix it up and Klopp isn't
 
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