Same reason they care about second hand sales, even though they get the money from the 'first sale', they see the second sale as a lost one because it's someone who was happy to buy the game but they've seen no additional money.
The end of selling game codes you get from buying a new GPU on the Members Market.
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Same reason they care about second hand sales, even though they get the money from the 'first sale', they see the second sale as a lost one because it's someone who was happy to buy the game but they've seen no additional money.
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The GPU section was often full of spec me threads and people justify spending the next tier of card with 'I know its over budget but if you include xxx and yyy, you can go up to a AMD/Nvidia ZZZ'
People will often look for excuses just to free themselves of a bit of buying guilt.
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Well this is retarded.
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Run one on each card.So if you get two cards the same like of you want to run sli you can sli the games too and get 2x the performance
Seems pretty stupid to me, if you don't like the games in the bundle then nvidia still get the sale because someone can sell the game, now they're going to have a tougher choice.
Seems a miserly move but I can understand why they're keen to do it (games publishers rather than Nvidia).
The whole Geforce Experience is a new thing to me though, and given that I'll be shopping for a new graphics card soon its awfully off putting.
The whole Geforce Experience is a new thing to me though, and given that I'll be shopping for a new graphics card soon its awfully off putting.
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To right but I think for once this one will be safe...............
because the games bundled with AMD products are a load of tosh
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Soldato
Bit of a crappy move, do they really lose much from this or is it the publishers of said games not happy about it?
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So Nvidia are saying that not only can you not sell game codes, you cannot gift them to family friends etc., even if you already happen to own the promo game?
Absolutely crazy change in policy, if true!
Might as well cancel the whole game code with hardware initiative and sell the hardware (~£20?) cheaper, gamers then spend less on their card and buy games they want.
Absolutely crazy change in policy, if true!
Might as well cancel the whole game code with hardware initiative and sell the hardware (~£20?) cheaper, gamers then spend less on their card and buy games they want.
What a totally stupid decision.
I havnt bought a GPU for many years, still using gigabyte 670 SLI and I wont be changing for a long time still as its still performing well.
This is just going to make people look at GPU buying differently.
If you want a new GPU and Nvidia and AMD are performing/priced similarly and AMD has a game you don't have it will make people go with AMD as you can't sell the duplicate you get from Nvidia.
Stupid decision Nvidia, stupid.
This is assuming its Nvidia doing this and not the publishers, which we don't know yet.
I havnt bought a GPU for many years, still using gigabyte 670 SLI and I wont be changing for a long time still as its still performing well.
This is just going to make people look at GPU buying differently.
If you want a new GPU and Nvidia and AMD are performing/priced similarly and AMD has a game you don't have it will make people go with AMD as you can't sell the duplicate you get from Nvidia.
Stupid decision Nvidia, stupid.
This is assuming its Nvidia doing this and not the publishers, which we don't know yet.
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I think you massively underestimate brand loyalty among GPU purchasers.
Seriously benchmarks, scores, 10-30% pricing differences for performance wont say these people, i doubt an offer of a free game title you may not even want will tempt the vast majority to pay a little more and switch sides.
I know it is something that may convince YOU but given your using a 670SLI and wont be changing your GPUs for years, i dont think customers with your mentality are the top priority targets when deciding price and marketing.
Just a look at the GPU section will show you the silly green/red team arguments go beyond standard buyers rationale
Seriously benchmarks, scores, 10-30% pricing differences for performance wont say these people, i doubt an offer of a free game title you may not even want will tempt the vast majority to pay a little more and switch sides.
I know it is something that may convince YOU but given your using a 670SLI and wont be changing your GPUs for years, i dont think customers with your mentality are the top priority targets when deciding price and marketing.
Just a look at the GPU section will show you the silly green/red team arguments go beyond standard buyers rationale
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I've never understood how you can be a 'fan' of hardware, surely you just buy the best product for the amount you can afford?
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Well yeah but when the money you spend is good enough for whatever you want to use it for regardless and the odd bad experience makes you judge one brand the rest of your life, you get those sort of people born.
Look at 'car people', there are people that will swear that Renault's are electrical disasters on wheals but my parents have had two each in 26 years and have never had to do anything to them really, so they feel they are incredibly reliable.
iphone and android users get use to the very minor differences in interface and all of a sudden, the other brand is crap but in reality its the user that is too crap to beat the learning curve/frustration. Eventually the mroe popular choice gets a reputation and clever marketing assists the brand in solidifying that reputation.
Look at 'car people', there are people that will swear that Renault's are electrical disasters on wheals but my parents have had two each in 26 years and have never had to do anything to them really, so they feel they are incredibly reliable.
iphone and android users get use to the very minor differences in interface and all of a sudden, the other brand is crap but in reality its the user that is too crap to beat the learning curve/frustration. Eventually the mroe popular choice gets a reputation and clever marketing assists the brand in solidifying that reputation.
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I don't like knowing I'm paying for something I won't be able to use.
If the bundled game is one I already have or am not interested in that will affect my decision process probably making me delay my purchase until a better bundle is available especially as it seems recently that the bundled games seem to change quite often.
If the bundled game is one I already have or am not interested in that will affect my decision process probably making me delay my purchase until a better bundle is available especially as it seems recently that the bundled games seem to change quite often.
Soldato
Then wouldnt you just buy the card from a retailer that offers it without the bundled games at a reduced price?
So you are suggesting that even the etailer (if they do the promo) will suffer now?
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I've done this very recently so yeah they would. Sorry OcUK!
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I am suggesting that if you are not willing to pay full price for a GPU because you own the extra games, that you would just go to a retailer that offers just the GPU for a slightly lower cost. Like them dodgy blokes beginning with S.
Retailers wouldn't suffer, they would just end up handing out less of these codes after an adjustment period of people choose to buy slightly cheaper cards with no extras.
Edit - As shown above
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Would the way forward for e-tailors not be to list card prices without the codes and then offer a game code (at extra cost) after placing card in basket?
Compared to buying that game separately and possibly elsewhere, the optional extra code will cost the customer less.
Compared to buying that game separately and possibly elsewhere, the optional extra code will cost the customer less.
etailer cost is the same, they don't pay more for the game codes. Nvidia usually provide them to the chosen etailers (for free) but the cost is split out over the stock anyway. If you find an etailer with a lower price than another, but without the game it will be because that etailer has pushed the vendor/distri for a better supported price or that etailer is happy to make less profit margin.