The EU Referendum: Polling Day

CaptainRAVE · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:15

We will probably remain

The Mad Rapper · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:15

[TW]Fox;29675567 said:
Or we could leave these decisions to the parliament we elect to represent us.

Or not.

datalol-jack · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:15

[TW]Fox;29675567 said:
No, he wants a representative democracy.

What next, a referendum on everything? Let's have referendum on the construction and use regulations for steel structures! Yay democracy!

Or we could leave these decisions to the parliament we elect to represent us.

I like how these direct democracy anoraks bray for it, but then complain about dictators -- populist referendums is their flipping bread and butter! But we've been awash in their contradictions for months now, so might as well let that slide into another lizard pit sponsored by the Bilderbergs and some tobacco companies.

teejay73 · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:16

scorza said:
Just been to exercise my right, nay ... to do my duty and vote. Very busy at the polling station, queued for around 15 minutes - two youngsters in front of me weren't registered so weren't able to vote, shame for them. Believe it or not, I'd actually had a few jitters throughout the day about which way to vote, but as I got to polling desk and placed my deliberate, defiant and definite X in the Leave box I knew in my heart and my head that I'd done the right thing, and that if victorious, I had played my part in securing a bright future for my niece and nephew and all the other children of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

This....Very much as I sit here listening to the overtly patriotic "I vow to thee my country"

Locky · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:17

[TW]Fox;29675567 said:
No, he wants a representative democracy.

What next, a referendum on everything? Let's have referendum on the construction and use regulations for steel structures! Yay democracy!

Or we could leave these decisions to the parliament we elect to represent us.

Are you serious?

Avenged7Fold · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:17

scorza said:
Would it be such a bad thing?

Yes.

If we had a referendum on changing the majority of our power stations to Nuclear power, the bulk of the public would be imagining glowing green goo in barrels and nuclear bombs.

If we had referendums for everything, the country would be ruled and controlled by the media... more so than now.

Referendums would be decided by whatever is socially popular. Imagine the ridiculous political correctness laws we would have 15-20 years from now when we have another generation of tumblr warriors.

stewski · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:20

Avenged7Fold said:
Yes.

If we had a referendum on changing the majority of our power stations to Nuclear power, the bulk of the public would be imagining glowing green goo in barrels and nuclear bombs.

If we had referendums for everything, the country would be ruled and controlled by the media... more so than now.

Referendums would be decided by whatever is socially popular. Imagine the ridiculous political correctness laws we would have 15-20 years from now when we have another generation of tumblr warriors.

You and Scoza have an interesting political debate, we should have a referendum on it?

SouthEastBlue · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:20

I voted out.

Don't know many people personally or at work who are voting in.

scorza · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:21

Avenged7Fold said:
Yes.

If we had a referendum on changing the majority of our power stations to Nuclear power, the bulk of the public would be imagining glowing green goo in barrels and nuclear bombs.

If we had referendums for everything, the country would be ruled and controlled by the media... more so than now.

Referendums would be decided by whatever is socially popular. Imagine the ridiculous political correctness laws we would have 15-20 years from now when we have another generation of tumblr warriors.

I think if politicians trusted the electorate, gave us facts instead of politics, then we'd be OK. I don't think it's practical to have referendums for everything, but we should definitely have them more often. Whatever the result from today, I think it's wonderful how engaged people have been with the political process, a record number of people have registered to vote - that is fantastic news. Sure there's been some bitterness, but what do you expect? We're not treated as mature adults by politicians so we don't act as such.

Pudney · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:22

Freakbro said:
What about the civil servants under him who do all the actual work and present him with the options, since he's just the figurehead, are they experts?

Actually, that turned into a genuine question are the civil servants in the relevant departments educated/experts in their field?

If not, then the system really is *******

David Gauke (MP and Financial Secretary to the Treasury) is apparently very knowledgeable about tax.

Locky · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:23

SouthEastBlue said:
I voted out.

Don't know many people personally or at work who are voting in.

99% of the people who I know or spoke to are voting out too.

Fuggan · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:25

Only 35 minutes until we get zie poll back!

Narj · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:25

Locky said:
99% of the people who I know or spoke to are voting out too.

Except lots are actually bottling it at the ballot box. I also think there were a lot of "silent remainers".

If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to fulfil my earlier promise.

Ayahuasca · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:26

I'd be surprised to see Leave win, bookies don't often get these so wrong. Around 5/1 for leave last I checked.

fornowagain · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:26

@WikiGuido 4m4 minutes ago

UKIP sources not optimistic.

Tephnos · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:27

Avenged7Fold said:
Referendums would be decided by whatever is socially popular. Imagine the ridiculous political correctness laws we would have 15-20 years from now when we have another generation of tumblr warriors.

Oh god

Gooner Leroy · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:27

Narj said:
Except lots are actually bottling it at the ballot box.

This is what I'm anticipating. People giving the 'big un' but not having the bottle /get last minute doubts about voting to leave

PapaLazaru · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:27

Locky said:
99% of the people who I know or spoke to are voting out too.

I genuinely do not know anyone that has voted out.

Avenged7Fold · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:28

Tephnos said:
Oh god

I know, the thought is terrifying.

Freakbro · 23 Jun 2016 at 21:28

Avenged7Fold said:
Were you not spearheading the 'it'l be fixed!' and 'they will never agree to going out even if we win' OCuk tinfoil hat movements?

Scorza can be quite consistent on his views, but every now and then it slips and I think he's just an elaborate troll....