I wouldn't waste your time, the programme was rubbish.
The execution of Gary Glitter
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I wouldn't waste your time, the programme was rubbish.
The right of a woman to have control over her own body supercedes any rights you may want to assign to an unborn child. You really don't want to go down the route of giving an unborn child full human rights at conception, far, far too ugly a world that would become.
Sadly.
You are taking a life. Or at least the potential for life (as in, the process set in motion).
Abortion is a horrible thing and should only ever be used as a 'last resort'. In the cases of severe trauma, in cases of rape and the like.
It should never be a method of birth control, in the sense that it's a failsafe for accidental pregnancies.
I see where you're going with this. I do not 'condone' abortion, but understand that it is an unfortunate method with which many people feel is the only method available to them.
gets my vote
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Leave them in a cell with a small mountain of heroin. I'm pretty sure they'll do the job themselves. Bloody Liberal.
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bring it back,might sort this damn country out once and for all,it should have never been stopped.
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Didn't watch the programme, and won't be watching it. The title suggests it's a sensationalist dimwit attractor.
There is no ability to appeal from the afterlife for a miscarriage of justice, and there are far worse punishments than death. Capital punishment only appeals to the ignorant.
There is no ability to appeal from the afterlife for a miscarriage of justice, and there are far worse punishments than death. Capital punishment only appeals to the ignorant.
I think that's perfectly reasonable.
maybe you wouldnt say that if he had raped and murdered one of your children
Or maybe they would continue to murder inside, or get released and carry on raping, murdering or whatever. Or maybe the right thing would happen and they would get abused for years inside before dieing a slow painful death
I think it is the wrong way to go too as evidence can never be 100%. e.g. DNA samples getting mixed up or people getting framed. Other things should be done to aware the public, like the loss of fingers/thumbs. Or paedofiles named and shamed.
What I would like to see is UK prisons becoming the same as high security brazilian / american ones and no sections for paedos. This way paedofiles at least, will think twice if they know they are going to get a world of abuse by inmates
DNA is still a developing science, and is not 100% accurate. Eye witnesses in a lot of cases give contradictory descriptions which can muddy the waters when it comes to trials. Most people view things slightly differently and preconceptions/prejudice can shape events in their mind.
Even things such as fingerprints, which most people would think of as 100% reliable, have problems. I watched a documentary about Shirley McKie - a policewoman who was accused of being at a murder scene because of fingerprint evidence. After a long battle to clear her name she was cleared of perjury and awarded £750,000 settlement. The crux of her arguement was that the way britain uses fingerprint evidence is unsafe. Many fingerprint experts contradicted the findings in the original investigation saying the amount of common points were insufficient and should be increased in future.
I am like you who would believe in capital punishment for certain cases, but the burden of ensuring that misjustices do not take place is too great in my opinion.
It's amazing the number of people who support barbaric punishment practices but at the same time campaign against the barbaric punishment practices of other countries and scaremonger about the coming of Sharia law to the UK...
It's about the UK law and the death penalty not the Sharia law that hates women.
So you are saying that the UK was a barbaric place in 1968?
Bring back the Death Penalty I say and do it quick.
The vast majority of civilised cultures don't use the death penalty, because it doesn't work to reduce crime rates (the deterrant factor is minimal) and the amount of checking needed to prevent miscarriages of justice makes it more expensive than life in prison.
Given how many innocent people we executed, I would say the state was barbaric at that point, yes.
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Should or would?
Come on fella, with respect drag yourself back down to earth a little.
Never ever will that happen, sadly. Its quite likely a global ethos....to live in harmony, to work towards a better society.....But it aint gonna happen!
Prison don't work for mass murderers/paedos....it just sucks up tax payers money and gives them better living standards than the unfortunates who live on the streets.
How on earth could anyone think someone of such a debauched nature could be rehabilitated back into society is beyond me and imho completely naieve.
I like others believe in justice/revenge, i don't really care what you call it. If someone is 100% proved guilty without a shadow of a doubt, of such a heinous crime then they should lose their life. I'll guarantee there won't be a shortage of people willing to flick the switch, pull the trigger or insert the needle!
These sickos cease to serve any purpose (exception dissection to try and understand what makes them tick) once they've committed such a barbaric crime. Get rid of them!
Barbaric to bring back execution? i don't think so. Ok, lets not make a public spectacle out of it, but i think it should be re-introduced for the worst criminals convicted beyond shadow of a doubt.
Most prisons around the world are used as punishment not rehabilitation - even though governments keep saying the opposite. The problem is that to properly rehabilitate the few that can be (and not all can be imo), it needs more money to build and run proper rehabilitation facilities. This will never happen as it is a sure vote loser for any politician stating this.
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agreed! so get rid of em. IF their minds are twisted enough to commit such crimes, then i'm sure they won't find prison much of a hardship.
Save time, money, resources and space......end their worthless lives!
Save time, money, resources and space......end their worthless lives!
Who defines when a life is worthless and the state can justifiably end it? After all, the age of consent (for example) has been a flexible idea in the UK, ranging from 10 to 21 over the years, and indeed there is still massive inconsistency across the world about when it becomes acceptable to have sex with someone. At what point does someone become a 'paedo' worthy of execution?
What sort of murderers would you execute? There are a great variety of reasons why people kill after all...