The Exodus has begun!

[Haggisman]

I think most people think of London as a concrete jungle. There are plenty of green suburbs which are 30mins hop-on ride to central. Nice houses (yes expensive!) With gardens and again 20-30mins drive to m25 and the rest of the UK. It's not a different country lol

Green suburbs != wilderness. There are plenty of green suburbs in/around Birmingham too, but that doesn't stop it being a ****hole

 

[Jean-F]

But who's moving into the houses of the exodus people?

To paraphrase W. Shakespeare, “aye, and there’s the rub.”

I love London.

Me and you both Buddy, I’d consider somewhere between Tours and Toulouse,
maybe Limoges, but failing that I’ll stay put.

Come to sunny oldham, cheap houses up here.

Presumably you’re kidding, but even if you’re not, no thanks, one fleeting visit was enough for me.
I wouldn’t live there if you paid me.

 

[The Running Man]

To paraphrase W. Shakespeare, “aye, and there’s the rub.”




Me and you both Buddy, I’d consider somewhere between Tours and Toulouse,
maybe Limoges, but failing that I’ll stay put.



Presumably you’re kidding, but even if you’re not, no thanks, one fleeting visit was enough for me.
I wouldn’t live there if you paid me.

Oh;(

 

[deuse]

Thats less of an issue, the violence is very isolated and very little protests now. Most people are fed up of paying sky high Manhattan rent and nothing is open so why stay. I know loads of people that have either moved back to parents homes or moved out to a bigger place further out for the same or less they paid in Manhattan.

Errrmmmmm

"A record high of 13,000 apartments are empty in Manhattan - the most in 14 years - as rent prices plummet and supply goes through the roof"

 

[explicit4u]

Errrmmmmm

"A record high of 13,000 apartments are empty in Manhattan - the most in 14 years - as rent prices plummet and supply goes through the roof"

That doesn't back up your claim.

The exodus is happening in cities all around the US, companies in San Francisco are terminating their office leases and housing stock is up 100% yoy, and that's in a city that hasn't really been affected by violence and protests.

 

[Scam]

The centre of London (the tourist area and places politicians hang out, where the government spends all of our money) is nice, the rest is mostly a pit.

Where do people come up with nonsense? London is a city of villages, you just need to find the nice areas. Have you ever walked around Primrose Hill, the quiet parts of Marylebone, Dulwich, Barnes, Highgate, Kew, Stroud Green etc. I could go on

Green suburbs != wilderness. There are plenty of green suburbs in/around Birmingham too, but that doesn't stop it being a ****hole

The benefit of London is that it's pretty easy to get out, via car or train. We live out west so it's about 1.5hrs drive to the Cotswolds, 3hrs to Somerset etc. Direct trains to Cornwall etc. Most people taper living in London with weekends away, escaping to the countryside/seaside. It's a cliche but true. And there's nothing wrong with that, you get the benefit of hustle and bustle during the week, quick pints after work with friends (tube home, no driving = win), amazing restaurants walkable from the office etc. with the ability to escape when you want. I like it, I just wish we had a car to escape more easily, and was rich to enjoy these things more

 

[Nasher]

Where do people come up with nonsense? London is a city of villages, you just need to find the nice areas. Have you ever walked around Primrose Hill, the quiet parts of Marylebone, Dulwich, Barnes, Highgate, Kew, Stroud Green etc. I could go on

The benefit of London is that it's pretty easy to get out, via car or train. We live out west so it's about 1.5hrs drive to the Cotswolds, 3hrs to Somerset etc. Direct trains to Cornwall etc. Most people taper living in London with weekends away, escaping to the countryside/seaside. It's a cliche but true. And there's nothing wrong with that, you get the benefit of hustle and bustle during the week, quick pints after work with friends (tube home, no driving = win), amazing restaurants walkable from the office etc. with the ability to escape when you want. I like it, I just wish we had a car to escape more easily, and was rich to enjoy these things more

No, London itself is the central bit. The areas around it are boroughs, which are what remains of the assimilated villages.

The "county" it's all in is Greater London. Which unfortunately is slowly spreading outwards. It may get held back by Luton because it is OFC the biggest **** hole in the country and no one wants it lol (Bedfordshire already tried to palm it off and got denied).

 

[Haggisman]

The benefit of London is that it's pretty easy to get out...

That's hardly a compelling argument, surely if you're counting that as a benefit, then not being there in the first place would be even better?

... Via car or train. We live out west so it's about 1.5hrs drive to the Cotswolds, 3hrs to Somerset etc. Direct trains to Cornwall etc. Most people taper living in London with weekends away, escaping to the countryside/seaside. It's a cliche but true. And there's nothing wrong with that, you get the benefit of hustle and bustle during the week, quick pints after work with friends (tube home, no driving = win), amazing restaurants walkable from the office etc. with the ability to escape when you want. I like it, I just wish we had a car to escape more easily, and was rich to enjoy these things more

Again, all true of Birmingham (except obviously the tube part). I could be in the peak district or Wales with 1-2 hours. That doesn't change the fact that day-to-day living you're surrounded by people (most of whom are *****) in a tiny postage stamp of house/garden (unless you're very wealthy).

You may see hustle and bustle as a benefit, I don't - as far as I'm concerned it's something to be avoided, I'd rather have a chilled out BBQ and a few beers in the garden with friends than go to a noisy pub or a restaurant where the food is worse than I can cook at home

 

[Scam]

No, London itself is the central bit. The areas around it are boroughs, which are what remains of the assimilated villages.

Boroughs of London, what's your point? Half the places I mentioned there are in zone 1 and no more than a 30min walk from "the centre". Obvious arguments about where is the centre of London, obviously.. Cities are big nowadays, doesn't stop them being made up of villages/suburbs/whatever you want to call them.

That's hardly a compelling argument, surely if you're counting that as a benefit, then not being there in the first place would be even better?

I meant you get the best of both worlds. It's not like anyone is trapped in London and you make a life choice and have to stick with it for all eternity. Some of my most well-travelled colleagues are the ones who live very central and thoroughly enjoy the benefit of both options.

Again, all true of Birmingham (except obviously the tube part).

I wasn't comparing the two cities, just making the above^ point.

 

[Nasher]

That's hardly a compelling argument, surely if you're counting that as a benefit, then not being there in the first place would be even better?



Again, all true of Birmingham (except obviously the tube part). I could be in the peak district or Wales with 1-2 hours. That doesn't change the fact that day-to-day living you're surrounded by people (most of whom are *****) in a tiny postage stamp of house/garden (unless you're very wealthy).

You may see hustle and bustle as a benefit, I don't - as far as I'm concerned it's something to be avoided, I'd rather have a chilled out BBQ and a few beers in the garden with friends than go to a noisy pub or a restaurant where the food is worse than I can cook at home

Yep, I'd rather have as few people around as possible. Whenever I visit London it's just noisy and stressful, the air also smells bad.

 

[thenewoc]

Wouldn't like to be the owner of any of them £400k upwards 1 & 2 bed apartments in London now that's for sure, especially if they have unresolved cladding issues.

 

[Haggisman]

I meant you get the best of both worlds. It's not like anyone is trapped in London and you make a life choice and have to stick with it for all eternity. Some of my most well-travelled colleagues are the ones who live very central and thoroughly enjoy the benefit of both options.

It works the other way round as well, live in a nice big house with a decent sized garden in the countryside, and get the train into the city every couple of months when you fancy a night out...


Edit: actually, I don't know why I'm arguing the point, the more people hold your point of view, the cheaper the nice big houses in the country stay, please convince everyone you know that living in the city is better

 

[Jean-F]

Yep, I'd rather have as few people around as possible. Whenever I visit London it's just noisy and stressful, the air also smells bad.

Perhaps after a lifetime in the capital my olfactory system isn’t what it was, but I notice no bad air smell.

 

[ash_scotland88]

Our search area seems to be constantly expanding but I think we're more focused on getting the right house and land rather than where it could be.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Perhaps after a lifetime in the capital my olfactory system isn’t what it was, but I notice no bad air smell.

I didn’t notice it until I’d been somewhere else for couple of weeks. Centre of town has a background note of exhaust fumes, but the outskirts didn’t.

Don’t miss having a tissue covered in black/grey crud every time I blow my nose now that I live out in the sticks.

 

[Jean-F]

I didn’t notice it until I’d been somewhere else for couple of weeks. Centre of town has a background note of exhaust fumes, but the outskirts didn’t.

Don’t miss having a tissue covered in black/grey crud every time I blow my nose now that I live out in the sticks.

Maybe 30 years driving a Black Cab inured me to noxious smells, save for some hoi polloi who sat in the back.

 

[413x]

It works the other way round as well, live in a nice big house with a decent sized garden in the countryside, and get the train into the city every couple of months when you fancy a night out...


Edit: actually, I don't know why I'm arguing the point, the more people hold your point of view, the cheaper the nice big houses in the country stay, please convince everyone you know that living in the city is better

Yes.
Everyone move to London please. Keep those countryside houses cheape !

 

[413x]

Perhaps after a lifetime in the capital my olfactory system isn’t what it was, but I notice no bad air smell.

I notice our immediately when I go to London but get used to it quite quickly. But the air is definitely polluted.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Maybe 30 years driving a Black Cab inured me to noxious smells, save for some hoi polloi who sat in the back.

I bet the filthy commoner wanted you to go south of the river after dark as well, the cheeky swine!

 

[mattx2]

Errrmmmmm

"A record high of 13,000 apartments are empty in Manhattan - the most in 14 years - as rent prices plummet and supply goes through the roof"

I agree Manhattan is empty right now buts its not really due to protests and violence although there has been an uptick. If you ask people why they are moving its because they are fed up paying 3k for a studio in a building that has all its facilities closed in a city where hardly anything is open while trying to wfh with 2 adults in a cramped apartment