The FA CUP Fourth Round ** Spoilers ** [26th - 28th January 2018]

Rubbish performance again last night. After playing like we did vs City it looks as if we've gone into the next two games taken them as a given. Vs Swansea we struggled to create much but we comfortably controlled the game in the most part, yesterday though was atrocious all over the pitch right up until the last 15 minutes. And I wish Firmino would stop trying to score the perfect penalty all the time!

On VAR. It's a completely pile of ****. Not only does the time it takes to make a decision kill any atmosphere and tempo to the game but they're not even adding this time back on either! I think I read previously that in a typical game the ball is only actually in play for around 60 of the 90 minutes but given that, I'd be surprised if the ball was in play for more than 50 minutes yesterday. Given the goals and fairly lengthy injuries (plus WBA's usual time wasting) I'm sure we'd have been looking at 4 minutes added time in the first half - throw in the 2/3 VAR incidents and we should have been looking at 9-10 minutes added on but all we got was the 4.
 
I think VAR is a garbage idea but I've always thought if they do push it through they would be better off having an NFL style clock system and when the games stopped the clock stops then game ends on the 45min mark and 90th irrespective of what is happening.
 
The added time and nobody in the ground knowing what's going on can be fixed but these huge stoppages kill the game. I was at the game yesterday so I'm not sure exactly how long was taken to decide the penalty incident but it felt like an eternity. Everybody in the ground was getting fed up and the stoppages killed the game and atmosphere. Football isn't like NFL or Rugby where you have loads of 60+ second breaks between restarts, despite Ben Fosters best efforts.

Use technology for matter of fact decisions like goal line decisions, whether the ball has gone out of play or offsides. Surely with the billions of pounds in football we can develop a system that tracks the players and can instantly alert the ref if somebody is in an offside position (then let them decide whether they're active/interfering with play) and track whether the ball has gone out of play. Using VAR for subjective decisions is a mine field. Look at the Salah penalty yesterday and compare it to the Willian incident vs Norwich - both were fouls, neither were awarded on field but only the Salah incident was overturned? I get that it must be an obvious mistake for VAR to change a decision but surely nobody will claim that the Salah incident was any more wrong than the Willian one? Heck, I'd go as far to say that the Willian incident was probably a bigger mistake.
 
No1newts said:
Well it's good to see Van Dijk looking like a huge upgrade and strengthening the Liverpool defence :D

You are down to two options when it comes to the blame game now; Klopp of the keeper (that or Southampton have one again gouged your eyes out :D)
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What annoys me more is our defence has been crap under multiple different managers now, so our coaches must also be ****
 
Mark1989 said:
What annoys me more is our defence has been crap under multiple different managers now, so our coaches must also be ****
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It's like Newcastle and our inability to build a defence despite having an amazing manager who makes good defences. Sometimes it just feels although a club cannot do something no matter what you try :p
 
How or what?!

Sane had absolutely no effect on that there. The ball was like 2-3 feet above his and the keepers head so it wouldn't have mattered if he was any where in front of the keeper or not.
 
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