Caporegime
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Seriously once again a decision that should take 10 seconds on replay that they can't get right in that time, it's pathetic. But the ref is also standing around like a fool waiting. Get to the next point of the game and get ready then change it if you have to. get everyone ready to kick off, if everyone has to run to get ready for a freekick for offside, though unlikely do that, as it happened they could just get going straight away. Also again he should have been heading towards halfway line to get ready to watch a video. They are seemingly conspiring right now to make it as stupid as possible.
But ultimately VAR will rely on good, qualified people sitting in front of the video to make the correct decisions. they should be interviewing several thousand people for jobs where they sit them down, watch a couple hundred replays and make a call straight away. Needing say a 95% correct call rate to get the initial call then a hundred or whatever come back to watch a couple thousand replays, those who stay above 95% get the job, the rest get paid for probably a few days of work or something that it might take. Then more training then they get to sit in for these games and continual testing throughout, every few weeks go in for a training day and make sure they are still above the 95% or whatever, make sure the decisions in game aren't taking too long.
But they just need a rule, unless it's clear within two watches of a couple of replays you can't overturn. This really shouldn't be that difficult for most people and most decisions.
Again for me they need training on the rules and how to interpret them, people put their hands on people, I think the defender had his arm on Salah, but the way Salah yanked himself back at the same time he threw his shoulder back he also lifted his left leg, made zero attempt to make another step and did the swan dive knees thing, bent both immediately looking for ground. I think it wasn't a pull personally, but he felt the hand and threw his whole upper and lower body back at the same time. That is the thing, you've got to look at the whole body, someone who is running forwards and gets yanked back hard enough to be a foul at the shoulder goes over backwards because they never stopped trying to run.
95% of fouls where there is a physical contact but you can't tell if there was force you can pretty much get the right call by looking at the motion of the body and if they went down naturally or flopped and made it look like force was applied.
Even if there was force enough to be a foul, he gave out his legs on purpose at exactly the right time and made it look more like a dive.
I'm still hoping that proper var implementation with decent qualified people will mean near seamless working for most major decisions and will persuade players to simply never put their hands on each other in the same way.
But ultimately VAR will rely on good, qualified people sitting in front of the video to make the correct decisions. they should be interviewing several thousand people for jobs where they sit them down, watch a couple hundred replays and make a call straight away. Needing say a 95% correct call rate to get the initial call then a hundred or whatever come back to watch a couple thousand replays, those who stay above 95% get the job, the rest get paid for probably a few days of work or something that it might take. Then more training then they get to sit in for these games and continual testing throughout, every few weeks go in for a training day and make sure they are still above the 95% or whatever, make sure the decisions in game aren't taking too long.
But they just need a rule, unless it's clear within two watches of a couple of replays you can't overturn. This really shouldn't be that difficult for most people and most decisions.
Again for me they need training on the rules and how to interpret them, people put their hands on people, I think the defender had his arm on Salah, but the way Salah yanked himself back at the same time he threw his shoulder back he also lifted his left leg, made zero attempt to make another step and did the swan dive knees thing, bent both immediately looking for ground. I think it wasn't a pull personally, but he felt the hand and threw his whole upper and lower body back at the same time. That is the thing, you've got to look at the whole body, someone who is running forwards and gets yanked back hard enough to be a foul at the shoulder goes over backwards because they never stopped trying to run.
95% of fouls where there is a physical contact but you can't tell if there was force you can pretty much get the right call by looking at the motion of the body and if they went down naturally or flopped and made it look like force was applied.
Even if there was force enough to be a foul, he gave out his legs on purpose at exactly the right time and made it look more like a dive.
I'm still hoping that proper var implementation with decent qualified people will mean near seamless working for most major decisions and will persuade players to simply never put their hands on each other in the same way.
