The FA CUP Sixth Round - 9/10 March *** Spoilers ***
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I still cannot fathom why Fergie will not get some new midfielders/wingers in. As good as Giggs is, he isn't reliable enough to be placed in midfield or as a winger. Carrick isn't enough in holding midfield, and badly needs someone to partner with him. The Cleverley/Carrick partnership in midfield is lacking creativity and consistency just as much as the wings. Kawaga is decent but hasn't be utilised to his full potential yet. And Nani and Valencia the less said the better.
About the only thing that has some strength at the moment are the forwards Hernandez/Rooney/RVP and the back 4. Everything in the middle and on the sides is below par and needs rebuilding.
It's funny but the situation is indentical for the England team as well.
About the only thing that has some strength at the moment are the forwards Hernandez/Rooney/RVP and the back 4. Everything in the middle and on the sides is below par and needs rebuilding.
It's funny but the situation is indentical for the England team as well.
Ok the OTT reactions has gone far enough now, you still cant fathom why Fergie hasn't signed any more wingers? Let me ask was that your opinion at the start of the season because I'm guessing the reality is you're saying it due to the form of the 3 wingers this season alone.
At the start of the season when we were being linked with Hazard and Lucus people were questioning why Fergie was after anymore wide players (it even became a running joke about how he only signed wide players and strikers), fact is no one could foresee Nani and Young missing so much football through injury or how Valencia after being so good would become so bad. The wings may well be an area of the squad the manager addresses in the summer (more due to Nani's contractual situation more than anything) but no one can start spouting out that it's an area of the squad that needed addressing this past summer.
As for the centre of midfield that argument has become has boring as one of DM's/Nickg's/Moses' posts, everytime the team loses a big game it's 'quick lets blame the midfield', the midfield was fine today, it was fine home and away against Madrid and it was fine in the league victories over Liverpool (x2), Chelsea (A), Arsenal & City (A). The only thing Fergie can find himself guilty of doing recently is putting too much of an emphasise on the league, with a 15 point cushion one would have thought the game at the weekend would have been the one to rest RVP & Vidic in but seemingly Fergie would prefer to maintain that 15 point lead than win more than just the league title this season and me moaning about that is just proof of how spoilt us United supporters have it (you ask any Chelsea supporter what they'd rather win this season The FA Cup or Premier League and any that tell you the former would be lying their ass off!!)
I wish Fergie had prioritised today's game, for all their ability when we play Welbeck and Hernandez together we lack goals, both need to be partnered with a Rooney or an RVP and when Rooney came back from International duty with a fitness doubt I would have preferred RVP to have been spared against Sunderland to make sure he at least was available to start today, Fergie did otherwise and we'll just have to get on with it. Like I said previously the aim now has to be to win the league in style, Mourinho's side won the title with 95 points so we need 19 more from our remaining 8 games to beat that starting with completing a league double over City on Monday night....
Even as a non Man U fan I can see that the Man U midfield is completely lacking in creativity. Carrick is average at best, Cleverley has some redeeming features, Scholes and Giggs can't last more than another season at best. Nani is consistently inconsistent, Anderson is just rubbish now, Fletcher used to be OK but I wonder if he'll actually be back, never mind as good as he was before.
Quite why he hasn't bought a decent midfielder I don't know. I suppose he could say he's justified by the fact they're 15 points clear but the midfield is where they're weakest. Sneijder would have been perfect as an attacking midfielder although the wages might have been too much. Fellaini to Man U in the summer? He needs to sign someone and let either Nani or Anderson go.
Quite why he hasn't bought a decent midfielder I don't know. I suppose he could say he's justified by the fact they're 15 points clear but the midfield is where they're weakest. Sneijder would have been perfect as an attacking midfielder although the wages might have been too much. Fellaini to Man U in the summer? He needs to sign someone and let either Nani or Anderson go.
Do you really think Fellaini would the answer to this so called lack of creativity? He scores goals for Everton (or did) when he was given a free role off the striker, when played in midfield he scores totals like last season (5 incase you were wondering)
Fair enough if people are going to say we need this and we need that but at least put forward worth while players who actually excel in the position we'd play them in
I dont think anyone is denying that we could have better players in midfield, we could have Xavi & Iniesta but the fact is we don't. Barca could have better players in defence but again the fact is they don't. I'm not really sure what your point is other than stating the obvious?
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well, you may win in style from a points gap pov but you certainly won't win in any form of entertaining style from how united have been playing for atleast a year now.2013 so far, it seems united just play enough to get the job done, which is fine, points on the board but a large, if not most of it, is down to the mentality instilled by ferguson and the signing of RVP.
would any other manager have signed RVP if they managed united? i'm not so sure tbh but it looks like a title winning decison and papers over a lot of cracks, the midfield being the biggest one and not a recipe for a sustainable domination.
You often go on about being entertaining when winning games cm which when Arry was in charge and Spurs were playing attractive football themselves I took as a dig at Man Utd but given Spurs this season have played about as rubbish as anyone I'm not sure what your obsession with it is?
If (and it's a big if) Man Utd finish the season with a minimum of 96 points that goes in the record books and in 10 years time no one will give a crap if we played the best football known to man or the worst football just as no one cares now how many games Chelsea won that season by 'just doing enough'
As for signing or having good players and them papering over cracks we're not alone in that in fact you only need to look closer to home yourself to see that
If (and it's a big if) Man Utd finish the season with a minimum of 96 points that goes in the record books and in 10 years time no one will give a crap if we played the best football known to man or the worst football just as no one cares now how many games Chelsea won that season by 'just doing enough'
As for signing or having good players and them papering over cracks we're not alone in that in fact you only need to look closer to home yourself to see that
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No I don't. He's not good enough. He's quality for maybe 5-8 games a year. Luckily for us one game was against United. Now the papers talk him up and his value has gone up. I wouldn't give it anymore thought that when Lescott went if we get 20 plus for him.
He's decent at Everton but in a top 4 side he will be shown up and the same people crying about a midfield that's just won the league at a canter will be moaning about fergie buying him.
The united players are already on holiday, few really care about the FA cup unless you have nothing else to play for. The top 4 only really care then and are happy to put out under strength sides when still in other competitions. I'm sure that attitude rubs off on the players.
United just haven't had any competition to keep them on their toes and firing until the end.
Good goal from Ba, even better Cech save, excellent atmosphere, good team performance, clean sheet, Spurs put off to another day and another visit to Wembley. You couldn't ask for more from a Sunday lunchtime at Stamford bridge. 
The highlight for me, was watching chico and cech talk about and laugh about it right after it happened. both supreme professionals, and an absolutely incredible save.
The biggest problem was the wing play and finishing. We had chances, but we didnt create enough of them.
The biggest problem was the wing play and finishing. We had chances, but we didnt create enough of them.
Good goal from Ba, even better Cech save, excellent atmosphere, good team performance, clean sheet, Spurs put off to another day and another visit to Wembley. You couldn't ask for more from a Sunday lunchtime at Stamford bridge.
You probably already know but the ticketing info for the semi is released today at 2pm.
Man. U. had some info on their website about the allocation before yesterday's game (it's gone now
) & I *think* it was around 32k so it won't be a problem getting them for STH & members with decent loyalty points, they weren't that expensive either 
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Because playing crap and scraping one nil wins over lowly teams only lasts for so.long. once you come up against the better teams you lose.
Happened last season. A lot. And this season to an extent. Playing well for 15 mins a game is not enough and that why we are knocked out if every cup competition.
As stated previousely 3 injuried to definite starters didnt help either (Evans, Rafael and Rooney) - two of which are very attack orientated.
Im not knocking Chelsea, they deserved the win on the day - but 1st half was completely dire, and Cech did a couple of really good saves. Other than the goal, and I think two shots blasted right at De Gea , he was pretty redundant for the most part also (although to his credit he came through players to collect a few balls too)
Im not knocking Chelsea, they deserved the win on the day - but 1st half was completely dire, and Cech did a couple of really good saves. Other than the goal, and I think two shots blasted right at De Gea , he was pretty redundant for the most part also (although to his credit he came through players to collect a few balls too)