The Falklands thread

[The Funktopus]

I thought the ground attack role had now been sorted out in the Typhoon?

It's not that the Typhoon isn't capable, it's that it's surface to air weaponry hasn't been cleared yet. In essence, every individual weapon has to go through an exhaustive and tedious testing process, and a bureaucratic labyrinth before being rubber stamped as "combat ready" by the all mighty pencil pushes at the MOD. With the diversion of aircraft intended for the RAF to the Saudi Air Force, and the Typhoon having to assume the Tornado F3's duties earlier than planned due to F3's retirement being brought forward on cost grounds, the testing and certification process for the Typhoon's air to surface weapons has slowed. And the likes of Libya aren't helping that process.

 

[haaammit]

Don't know if it's been done, but read op title as 'vuvuzela threatens britain....'

 

[[TW]Fox]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...says-Britain-militarising-South-Atlantic.html

It's just a blatant play to the home crowd attempt surely? I mean this bit is hilarious..

Mrs Kirchner said: “I want the Prime Minister of England to give peace a chance and ‘no’ to war.”

There have been absolutely no indications that the UK wants to start a war!?

 

[fadetoblack]

Have they been tested to specifically shoot down exocets?

The patriot missiles that the Americans deployed against Saddam's forces during the first gulf war were supposed to shoot down scud missiles but didn't prevent scud missiles getting through to US Forces or Israel.

The U.S. Army claimed an initial success rate of 80%

 

[Qel]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...says-Britain-militarising-South-Atlantic.html

It's just a blatant play to the home crowd attempt surely? I mean this bit is hilarious..



There have been absolutely no indications that the UK wants to start a war!?

Like you say its all to do with domestic argentine politics and hoping to get their hands on some oil that may or may not be in the waters there.

The way they go on about Prince William's deployment you'd think he was flying an Apache, but he's with search and rescue, whats he going to do bomb buenos aires with waterlogged sailors?

 

[MattU]

The disappointing thing to come out of this is the lack of allies we seem to have. After all the involvement with the UN and assisting in recent wars where are the countries speaking out on our side? It seems like most of South America support Argentina in this and disappointingly even the US seem to be on their side.

Would the French assist us after the discussions about cooperation last year?

 

[Housey]

The U.S. Army claimed an initial success rate of 80%

Then zero.

Much the same as Rapier in 82, didn't hit a ****** thing, in the reports it took out loads....then someone woke up.

 

[Guile]

Do they run the world as some sort of shadow government as you seem to suggest? Hell no.

Nice try.

Who runs the Federal Reserve Reserve? Do you know what it is? Do you understand it's power? Do you undertand the power the printing press of a currency that is accepted in any country? Who ran the Russian mafia and is now protected in the UK since Putin kicked them out? Who are the Rothschilds?

When was the last time a Western government voted against a racial supremacist state (Israel)? Forget South Africa (that was Whites and racism against Whites doesn't exist). USA vetoes anything that will stop an empire-building Jewish state based on race. Israel runs America. The fact that you don't know it makes you clueless.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Nice try.

Who runs the Federal Reserve Reserve? Do you know what it is? Do you understand it's power? Do you undertand the power the printing press of a currency that is accepted in any country? Who ran the Russian mafia and is now protected in the UK since Putin kicked them out? Who are the Rothschilds?

When was the last time a Western government voted against a racial supremacist state (Israel)? Forget South Africa (that was Whites and racism against Whites doesn't exist). USA vetoes anything that will stop an empire-building Jewish state based on race. Israel runs America. The fact that you don't know it makes you clueless.

Why are you so obsessed with Israel? All I've ever seen you post about is Israel.

 

[Firestar_3x]

It's not that the Typhoon isn't capable, it's that it's surface to air weaponry hasn't been cleared yet. In essence, every individual weapon has to go through an exhaustive and tedious testing process, and a bureaucratic labyrinth before being rubber stamped as "combat ready" by the all mighty pencil pushes at the MOD. With the diversion of aircraft intended for the RAF to the Saudi Air Force, and the Typhoon having to assume the Tornado F3's duties earlier than planned due to F3's retirement being brought forward on cost grounds, the testing and certification process for the Typhoon's air to surface weapons has slowed. And the likes of Libya aren't helping that process.

Interesting, sounds as complex and drawn out as everyother MOD process i've read about!

The disappointing thing to come out of this is the lack of allies we seem to have. After all the involvement with the UN and assisting in recent wars where are the countries speaking out on our side? It seems like most of South America support Argentina in this and disappointingly even the US seem to be on their side.

Would the French assist us after the discussions about cooperation last year?

What happens in public and what goes on behind closed doors are two very different things, on one hand we have the UK, a huge player in Europe and a big player on the world stage, we have influance around the world which far exceeds our nations size, then we have Argentina, which we've established has excellent corned beef.

 

[fadetoblack]

It's not that the Typhoon isn't capable, it's that it's surface to air weaponry hasn't been cleared yet. In essence, every individual weapon has to go through an exhaustive and tedious testing process, and a bureaucratic labyrinth before being rubber stamped as "combat ready" by the all mighty pencil pushes at the MOD. With the diversion of aircraft intended for the RAF to the Saudi Air Force, and the Typhoon having to assume the Tornado F3's duties earlier than planned due to F3's retirement being brought forward on cost grounds, the testing and certification process for the Typhoon's air to surface weapons has slowed. And the likes of Libya aren't helping that process.

It's more like

The National Audit Office, the government finance watchdog, recently criticized the RAF for having only eight qualified ground-attack pilots on Typhoons.

 

[arknor]

The Falklands is 400 miles off the Argentine and Chilean coast, do you know what else is 400 miles away?

Norway!

Argentina didn't exist when we took it from the French as the Argentine's we're Spanish. The whole thing deserves a massive

france isnt many miles from us i demand it be part of england

 

[crinkleshoes]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...says-Britain-militarising-South-Atlantic.html

It's just a blatant play to the home crowd attempt surely? I mean this bit is hilarious..



There have been absolutely no indications that the UK wants to start a war!?

What is it with women and the Falklands?

First Maggie, now Christina.

*Note to self* don't vote for female leader until the Falklands needs another war...

 

[[TW]Fox]

Like you say its all to do with domestic argentine politics and hoping to get their hands on some oil that may or may not be in the waters there.

The daft thing is that they've shot themselves in the foot - were they not being so ridiculous about it Argentina would have had much to gain by being a key partner in any oil exploration. After all, substantial infrastructure and manpower will be needed and the Falklands alone cannot offer this.

 

[Housey]

Nice try.

Who runs the Federal Reserve Reserve? Do you know what it is? Do you understand it's power? Do you undertand the power the printing press of a currency that is accepted in any country? Who ran the Russian mafia and is now protected in the UK since Putin kicked them out? Who are the Rothschilds?

When was the last time a Western government voted against a racial supremacist state (Israel)? Forget South Africa (that was Whites and racism against Whites doesn't exist). USA vetoes anything that will stop an empire-building Jewish state based on race. Israel runs America. The fact that you don't know it makes you clueless.

I love simplistic soundbites, it makes you sound errudite.....in your own mind.

 

[fadetoblack]

Then zero.

Much the same as Rapier in 82, didn't hit a ****** thing, in the reports it took out loads....then someone woke up.

Did blowpipe not take out more?

 

[Muzza1875]

The U.S. Army claimed an initial success rate of 80%

On April 7, 1992 Theodore Postol of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Reuven Pedatzur of Tel Aviv University testified before a House Committee stating that, according to their independent analysis of video tapes, the Patriot system had a success rate of below 10%, and perhaps even a zero success rate.

wiki


I wonder what the UN will do besides laugh at the argies.

 

[Housey]

Did blowpipe not take out more?

I think it did actually, took out some choppers and Pucar's I think.

 

[Qel]

"The sending of a destroyer to accompany the Royal heir is a militarisation of the South Atlantic," Mrs Kirchner said.

"We will present a complaint to the UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly, as this militarisation poses a grave danger to international security."

Mrs Kirchner said the Falklands was not only a "regional issue" but had become a “global cause”.

Announcing the founding of a mental health hospital for Falklands war veterans, Mrs Kirchner said: “I want the Prime Minister of England to give peace a chance and ‘no’ to war.”

Yes clearly this is the most pressing international issue of our age, forget the war in Afghanistan, the Euro crisis, Syria bombing their own people and Iran developing nukes we must solve this crisis or the whole world is doomed...

 

[crinkleshoes]

The daft thing is that they've shot themselves in the foot - were they not being so ridiculous about it Argentina would have had much to gain by being a key partner in any oil exploration. After all, substantial infrastructure and manpower will be needed and the Falklands alone cannot offer this.

This,

Were they not such greedy twits in wanting 100% of the takings and/or just to be voted in again, the bad relations could improve and this could offer a lot of jobs & push a lot of money in to the Argentine economy.

They... are... morons