The Falklands thread

Delta12 said:
sooner they do something stupid like put a few ships up against our t45
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As good as the T45 may prove to be its anti-ship capabilities are very limited, budget cuts which halved the size of the fleet also stripped them of anti-ship missiles.

That just leaves the mark 8 gun, which may be a excellent all round weapon but may not carry the definitive 1 hit kill.
 
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dalin80 said:
As good as the T45 may prove to be its anti-ship capabilities are very limited, budget cuts which halved the size of the fleet also stripped them of anti-ship missiles.

That just leaves the mark 8 gun, which may be a excellent all round weapon but may not carry the definitive 1 hit kill.
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Fitted 'for but not with' 2× quadruple RGM-84 Harpoon anti-ship missile launchers.[30]
The embarked Lynx HMA 8 helicopter(s) is capable of carrying Sea Skua anti-ship missiles.
The 4.5 inch Mark 8 naval gun has an anti-ship role.
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Iam fitted 'for but not with' kelly brook so it kind of makes it a bit mute as the either way the ship still doesn't carry anti-ship missiles.

skua is a bit of a relic itself, fine against ageing hulks of the argentine navy but past that not so much.
 
dalin80 said:
Iam fitted 'for but not with' kelly brook so it kind of makes it a bit mute as the either way the ship still doesn't carry anti-ship missiles.

skua is a bit of a relic itself, fine against ageing hulks of the argentine navy but past that not so much.
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Hardly sea skua is battle proven.
 
Its all well and good saying that they should get on with it, then we can sink their ships etc. I wouldnt like to see any ships of either side on fire and sinking. It was bad enough last time watching the ships on fire knowing that my countrymen were dying. Nevermind the poor conscript argies that went against our best troops.
 
dalin80 said:
As good as the T45 may prove to be its anti-ship capabilities are very limited, budget cuts which halved the size of the fleet also stripped them of anti-ship missiles.

That just leaves the mark 8 gun, which may be a excellent all round weapon but may not carry the definitive 1 hit kill.
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Subs.

*Edit* WTF is that complete tool Sean Penn on about? I wonder how often he holidays in Hawaii?
 
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dalin80 said:
If a couple hit this little rubber duck-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Alferez_Sobral_(A-9)

And it was still unable to stop it returning home under its own power, it doesnt inspire confidence.
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Yes you right it's really that bad:rolleyes:

Sea Skua's success in active service during the Falklands War and Gulf Wars has led to international sales, being launched eight times during the Falklands War, sometimes in poor weather conditions, scoring a very high hit rate. Of these launches, four were used against the 800 ton patrol boat/rescue tug ARA Alférez Sobral, fired by two Lynx helicopters from HMS Coventry and HMS Glasgow. Two struck the patrol boat on the bridge, one hit the ship's fibreglass sea boat, and one passed over the ship.

Another four Sea Skuas were used to destroy the wrecks of the cargo ship Río Carcarañá (8,500 grt) and the patrol boat Río Iguazú., and during the First Gulf War six naval Lynx helicopters were deployed on four frigates & destroyers of the Royal Navy. On 24 January 1991 one Lynx engaged and sank two Iraqi minesweepers near Qurah Island. A third was scuttled, whilst a later skirmish took place on 29 January 1991 when a force of seventeen Iraqi landing craft and escorting Fast Attack Craft and minesweepers, were detected and engaged. Two vessels were sunk by Sea Skuas fired by four Lynx helicopters. The remaining vessels were engaged by other units.

Another convoy of three Polnocny class landing ship, 3x TNC-45 fast attack craft and a single T-43 minelayer were detected, with Sea Skuas fired from four Lynx helicopters destroyed the three fast attack craft, and damaging the minesweeper and one landing ship. Other engagements saw Lynx helicopters use Sea Skua to destroy a Zhuk class patrol boat, a salvage vessel and another Polnocny class landing ship, and damage one other Zhuk patrol boat.

As of October 2011 the following use Sea Skua.

Brazil, Germany, India, Kuwait, Malaysia, Pakistan, Republic of South Korea, Turkey


Also in during the falklands war The Sea Skua hadn't actually been completely qualified for service at the time, but it had been rushed into combat.
 
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So the mighty successful skua, which failed to kill a ww2 patrol boat with two hits, took 4 to destroy the wreck of a civilian cargo ship and made its name sinking ships barely bigger then rubber dingys.

Very impressive, the exocet tore the royal navy a new one during the falklands and they are not even sure whether some of the missiles that disable our at the time best warships even detonated properly.

The modern royal navy, make uber advanced ship - fit with muskets.
 
dalin80 said:
So the mighty successful skua, which failed to kill a ww2 patrol boat with two hits, took 4 to destroy the wreck of a civilian cargo ship and made its name sinking ships barely bigger then rubber dingys.

Very impressive, the exocet tore the royal navy a new one during the falklands and they are not even sure whether some of the missiles that disable our at the time best warships even detonated properly.

The modern royal navy, make uber advanced ship - fit with muskets.
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Keep talking dribble

The sea skua is a LIGHTweight anti ship missle
We also use Boeing harpoon Fitted to Type 23 frigates



Your forgetting you can also use tomohawlk cruise missles to destroy surface fleet ships?
 
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fadetoblack said:
Correct that's why we have harpoon and cruise missle can also be used against surface ships:D
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Which brings me back to my original point that while the T45 may be fitted for them they currently don't carry either making its anti-ship significantly weakened.

Unless you believe that a enemy ship may be scared off by the empty weapons slot.

'hang on lads, dont attack that ship! if we get to close it may sail all the way back to the UK, have a month long refit to put the anti-ship weapons back on, sail all the way back here and sink us!'
 
dalin80 said:
Which brings me back to my original point that while the T45 may be fitted for them they currently don't carry either making its anti-ship significantly weakened.

Unless you believe that a enemy ship may be scared off by the empty weapons slot.

'hang on lads, dont attack that ship! if we get to close it may sail all the way back to the UK, have a month long refit to put the anti-ship weapons back on, sail all the way back here and sink us!'
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You got it all wrong

This time round There will be a attack sub just waiting for the surface fleet to appear :D

Maybe the threat of cruise missles hitting the B/a corn beef factory would put them off.
 
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fadetoblack said:
You got it all wrong

This time round There will be a attack sub just waiting for the surface fleet to appear :D

Maybe the threat of cruise missles hitting the B/a corn beef factory would put them off.
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Absolutely, I agree.

I believe subs to be the most potent weapons on the planet even without nuclear warheads. I am just concerned about the type 45 being shipped out without the wider compliment of weapons it was designed for.
 
dalin80 said:
Absolutely, I agree.

I believe subs to be the most potent weapons on the planet even without nuclear warheads. I am just concerned about the type 45 being shipped out without the wider compliment of weapons it was designed for.
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To true mate

Maybe if we did not waste loads off cash on the Olympics ....... O wait that's another story :-(
 
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