http://www.eurasiareview.com/11022012-british-laughter-in-the-falkland-islands-oped/
Nice article might explain a lot
Nice article might explain a lot
The Falklands thread
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A nuclear sub refers to the power plant not the weapons.
Nuclear powered submarines are only deployed by a few countries because they're obviously quite complex, the huge advantage is you can travel completely submerged at full speed for long periods.
It's relatively easy for a ship to steam away from a diesel-electric sub.
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I got upto 'Britain is a small and isolated island which doesn't understand what goes on in the world' then had to stop watching.
Nathan do you really think we would be the the first to retaliate an invasion or attack with nuclear weapons ? I really do think even our government has a little more sense than that. So what would be the point of having 3 down there when they cannot launch ? Even going back to the cold war it was a debatable point, the suggestion was that after 6 days of Warsaw pact countries invasion, ie they were in the middle of Western Germany there might be a reason for battlefield tactical nukes to be used, but the general feeling at the time it would lead to an escalation it could lead to would't bear thinking about.
they aren't nuclear missile subs, they're attack submarines (armed with torpedoes and cruise missiles) powered by nuclear reactors.
but yeah one of the boomer sis probbaly near by too, and last time we did threaten to nuke Buenos Aires unless the French gave us the codes to disarm exocet missiles they had sold to the argies.
sooner they do something stupid like put a few ships up against our t45 or better yet their airfix fighters up against the air defences on the falklands and get resoundly bitchslapped the better,
then they can cease all this pointless posturing and go back to being the crappy little backwater country that they are
every few years its the same pointless shouting and arm waving from Argentina, humility can be a wonderful lesson hopefully they will learn some in the very near future
then they can cease all this pointless posturing and go back to being the crappy little backwater country that they are
every few years its the same pointless shouting and arm waving from Argentina, humility can be a wonderful lesson hopefully they will learn some in the very near future
I never said anything of the sort!? wtf?
You know Vanguard subs can launch torpedoes as well? I said we probably have a couple down there. But I highly doubt both are Vanguard's as I seem to recall we only have 1 at sea at a time... I reckon there is definitely one Astute down there. I mean they were doing sea trials anyway, so why not do them down there?
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Lol.
Presenter: "Why don't you just try making friends with the Falklands Islanders?"
Academic: "We tried, it didn't work. They didn't want anything to do with us."
Take the hint.
Is this debate really worth having any more.
"We gave them lots of free lead but they still didn't like us"
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The notion that we've sent a Vanguard SSBN down there is laughable at best, but perhaps none more so than the Argentinian's suggestion that they'd somehow know about it. They have nothing to counter our subs with, and they know it. Probably hence the sudden demands from the buffoon Timmerman that we reveal where our subs are, as they know full well that unless we tell them exactly where they are, then they'll never find them.
Furthermore, given that the Trident D5 missiles that the Vanguard boats carry have a range of 7,000 miles, then we wouldn't have to send one to the South Atlantic in order to threaten Argentina, we could do it from home waters.
Furthermore, given that the Trident D5 missiles that the Vanguard boats carry have a range of 7,000 miles, then we wouldn't have to send one to the South Atlantic in order to threaten Argentina, we could do it from home waters.
Not allowing more than one flight a week, attempting to economically blockade the islands, ignoring their UN mandated rights, routinely performing so many searches on ships bound for the islands that shipping companies are giving up, basically attempting to starve them.
And the childish islanders don't want to be friends?
We do send nuclear attack subs down there though. which is what confuses people they hear "nuclear submarine" and think "submarine armed with nuclear weapons"
And the Argentine foreign minister is playing on that to be honest. They latch on to words like "nuclear", "militarisation" and "colonialism". But refuse to take it to the International Court of Justice, probably because they are bound to enforce the UN charter, and grant the right of self determination.
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Oh indeed, it's common knowledge that we send Trafalgar class boats down there, and will inevitably start sending Astutes once they're done with sea trials, both of which as you correctly point out, are nuclear powered, conventionally armed attack subs, that pack Spearfish torpedoes and Tomahawk cruise missiles. Not ballistic missiles.
I'm curious as to who the Argentinians think will believe their ridiculous claims though? I can't understand why they're spunking what little credibility they had on the world stage over such far fetched and frankly ridiculous assertions.