The Gulf Stream could COLLAPSE as early as 2025

Critical bit being,

"However, to produce this collapse, the researchers had to run the model for 2500 years. And they had to add a huge amount of freshwater – less than in previous simulations, but still around 80 times more than is currently entering the ocean as Greenland’s ice sheet melts. “So that is absurd and not very realistic,” says van Westen.

Moreover, the simulation didn’t involve any global warming. The team now plans to rerun the simulation to include it."

It's giving hints of:
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Critical bit being,

"However, to produce this collapse, the researchers had to run the model for 2500 years. And they had to add a huge amount of freshwater – less than in previous simulations, but still around 80 times more than is currently entering the ocean as Greenland’s ice sheet melts. “So that is absurd and not very realistic,” says van Westen.

Moreover, the simulation didn’t involve any global warming. The team now plans to rerun the simulation to include it."

ha ha ha, oh no its not producing the result we want, tweak this, add that, that's better, now how can we tax it :D
 
I mean, never say never and all, but it sounds more like clickbait nonsense, I'd like to read the study, because the soundbites coming from it are all over the place..

It's fine to try to define/refine a very complex model for all this, but it needs some validation and therefore some context to understand how seriously it should be taken and what (if anything) can be done to mitigate it in an appropriate timeline.

Its the same for weather models, all the 'beast from the east' comments from the click bait media sources are based on the absolute worse case prediction that has the smallest likelihood of occurrence, but makes a good headline and those are models that have been constantly refined over many many years/iterations and seen as fairly reliable. This one sounds like a very immature model, far less development and iteration and the headline is for its worse case prediction with no validation to place any sort of likelihood on it..
 
I didn't bother clicking the link. Who on earth reads the Daily Mail anyway?

It's similar to the web version of my local paper which is now long gone. It's just stories in the summer about likely heatwaves, in winter it's stories about impending blizzards and lots of adverts.
 
I genuinely need to move house soon before the sea levels start rising. Imagine having your house valued at 0 because it'll be under water in 50 years! :D

Yeh, anything coastal or semi-coastal and at sea level would be a big worry.

I'm up nice and high. It will truly be like the film Waterworld if my house ends up under water!
 
I didn't bother clicking the link. Who on earth reads the Daily Mail anyway?

It's similar to the web version of my local paper which is now long gone. It's just stories in the summer about likely heatwaves, in winter it's stories about impending blizzards and lots of adverts.
The same story has been on other news outlets, I read it a few days earlier on the Beeb I think.
 
Critical bit being,

"However, to produce this collapse, the researchers had to run the model for 2500 years. And they had to add a huge amount of freshwater – less than in previous simulations, but still around 80 times more than is currently entering the ocean as Greenland’s ice sheet melts. “So that is absurd and not very realistic,” says van Westen.

Moreover, the simulation didn’t involve any global warming. The team now plans to rerun the simulation to include it."
On the flip Side we are likely vastly Underestimating the melting. But yeah after digging (quite hard) and assuming the response is correct it does look like they have used some crazy assumptions.


Really shows how just because it's a "scientific paper" doesn't mean it's at right.

But wow. I had to dig to find it
 
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