The Huw Edwards situation

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sidimmu said:
It's funny as those who bang the drum about morally unacceptable acts should carry heavy punishments even if legal are usually hypocrites throwing stones from their glass houses...
I'm looking at some people in here...
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If you think this is in any way normal and criticising it is hypocritical or throwing stones *in* (not *from*, at least try to get the saying right) glass houses then that's perhaps a reflection of you and your own conduct.

I'd suspect that most people on here have nothing as scandalous as this in their personal life!
 
dowie said:
If you think this is in any way normal and criticising it is hypocritical or throwing stones *in* (not *from*, at least try to get the saying right) glass houses then that's perhaps a reflection of you and your own conduct.

I'd suspect that most people on here have nothing as scandalous as this in their personal life!
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Funny how you are the one who's taken offense to that....
Again maybe if you can read my post again, you'd realise you misunderstood the point. The saying works absolutely fine in this context too.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe it's you do, maybe you don't. Maybe we should let the sun know.
 
dowie said:
I'd suspect that most people on here have nothing as scandalous as this in their personal life!
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I would be surprised if some people on here haven't paid for picture on OnlyFans, which is not too far from what Huw has seemingly done (notwithstanding the other allegations still being investigated).
 
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Ormy1 said:
People in the public eye are de facto role models for everyone else, damn right the expectations for their behaviour are higher than simply being legal. If you want to do questionable stuff (especially of a sexual nature) don't be famous.
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Then we should clamp down really really hard, starting with those most damaging. MPs.

And yet we have had people who on this thread are criticising Huw, previously lauding Boris.
Huw simply reads us the news.

Boris was in arguably the most powerful position in the whole of the UK.
By many known facts about Boris he was utterly unfit to even start the journey to that role.
Was unfit to be mayor, and MP, in any cabinet position, and PM.

Personally if we are judging people in the public eye by some moral standards, (good luck agreeing what they should be*), then a news reader is rather far down my list in order of priority.

*I would love someone to even start trying to define a set of moral standards for the UK. I am reminded of Mary Whitehouse.
 
Hades said:
I would be surprised if some people on here haven't paid for picture on OnlyFans, which is not too far from what Huw has seemingly done (notwithstanding the other allegations still being investigated).
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That's almost deliberately missing the point... if he'd only paid for pictures on onlyfans then he'd have a reasonable expectation that the person was 18 (as most adult sites will need to check IDs etc..) and no one would need be any the wiser that it was him making the payments... even if his user name was literally HuwEdwards123.

So yes I'd not be surprised if other people had paid for pictures on only fans but I don't really see the relevance of that to the point I made in the post you quoted.

sidimmu said:
Again maybe if you can read my post again, you'd realise you misunderstood the point. The saying works absolutely fine in this context too.
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No, if you live in a glass house you don't throw stones because you may break the house... if you're throwing stones from a glass house then... never mind.

And no I'm not offended, I just think it's a rather silly claim to make unless you have some warped view that this stuff is normal behaviour or are trying to make it seem like it's normal.

This sort of downplaying attempt given the allegations is rather iffy granted:

Dirk Diggler said:
What an abomination of a thread; you'd think some posters here have never had a chug in their life.
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dowie said:
That's almost deliberately missing the point... if he'd only paid for pictures on onlyfans then he'd have a reasonable expectation that the person was 18 (as most adult sites will need to check IDs etc..) and no one would need be any the wiser that it was him making the payments... even if his user name was literally HuwEdwards123.

So yes I'd not be surprised if other people had paid for pictures on only fans but I don't really see the relevance of that to the point I made in the post you quoted.
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Sorry I must have missed the information about how he met the alleged victim. I'm not expecting it to be OF. But can you let me know how they met and whether Huw knew they were under 18 when pictures were exchanged?
 
dowie said:
No, if you live in a glass house you don't throw stones because you may break the house... if you're throwing stones from a glass house then... never mind.

And no I'm not offended, I just think it's a rather silly claim to make unless you have some warped view that this stuff is normal behaviour or are trying to make it seem like it's normal.
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You should really try this reading thing you shout at everyone else to do.
You can throw stones from a glass house if you live in at another house made of glass... do the math princess...
You're the only one who's taken offense, maybe someone's house got a crack in it...

As for your last quote of Dirk, maybe take a look in the mirror sometime, you are equally as guilty.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Then we should clamp down really really hard, starting with those most damaging. MPs.

And yet we have had people who on this thread are criticising Huw, previously lauding Boris.
Huw simply reads us the news.

Boris was in arguably the most powerful position in the whole of the UK.
By many known facts about Boris he was utterly unfit to even start the journey to that role.
Was unfit to be mayor, and MP, in any cabinet position, and PM.

Personally if we are judging people in the public eye by some moral standards, (good luck agreeing what they should be*), then a news reader is rather far down my list in order of priority.

*I would love someone to even start trying to define a set of moral standards for the UK. I am reminded of Mary Whitehouse.
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Agree with nearly all of this, you'll never catch me defending Boris. Yes news readers are not at the top of the list (MPs sounds like a good place to start) but I'd say they're still near the top.
 
Hades said:
Sorry I must have missed the information about how he met the alleged victim. I'm not expecting it to be OF. But can you let me know how they met and whether Huw knew they were under 18 when pictures were exchanged?
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Why assume that information is available? If you're not expecting it to be OF then what relevance does your argument that people on here have probably paid for OF have?
 
dowie said:
Why assume that information is available? If you're not expecting it to be OF then what relevance does your argument that people on here have probably paid for OF have?
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It's relevant because you said it wasn't at all like someone paying for pictures on OF. So I assumed to make that statement you must have known how they met and how old the alleged victim was. If you don't know that information then it is surprising you could dismiss the OF analogy so firmly.
 
dowie said:
Yeah, you garbled it and now you're just waffling.
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Learnt from the best, yourself. That was the point I was making though, again you choose not to read fully to understand it or see the connection. Instead you blight on about how I get the saying wrong, when it doesn't even matter, what matters is you trying to put yourself above others. Grow up.
dowie said:
I'm equally as guilty of what exactly?
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Are you actually that stupid? Equally guilty in the **** show this thread has become, come on Dowie you give off you are smarter than this.
 
Hades said:
It's relevant because you said it wasn't at all like someone paying for pictures on OF.
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No, I didn't say that I said "if he'd only paid for pictures on onlyfans " for all I know he may well have paid for pictures on onlyfans, but that's hardly the only allegation here!

Hades said:
So I assumed to make that statement you must have known how they met and how old the alleged victim was. If you don't know that information then it is surprising you could dismiss the OF analogy so firmly.
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Why not? How is it relevant here? As I already pointed out (and you seem to have misread) if he only paid for pics on onlyfans there wouldn't be a story here! Ergo what relevance does your assertion that others reading this thread have likely paid for pics on only fans have?
 
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sidimmu said:
Learnt from the best, yourself. That was the point I was making though, again you choose not to read fully to understand it or see the connection. Instead you blight on about how I get the saying wrong, when it doesn't even matter, what matters is you trying to put yourself above others. Grow up.
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You were talking about hypocrisy and now you've made up your own analogy about throwing stones at other people's glass houses and you're sticking with it because well actually you just garbled the saying... :D

sidimmu said:
Are you actually that stupid? Equally guilty in the **** show this thread has become, come on Dowie you give off you are smarter than this.
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Sorry, I'm not a mind reader... especially not when it comes to posts as unhinged as yours.
 
If the allegations are true, and Hew was sending inappropriate messages to junior co-workers, along with paying tens of thousands for sexy pictures (legally), does anyone here think that this isn't a problem, and his job at the BBC should be reinstated immediately?
 
Ormy1 said:
Agree with nearly all of this, you'll never catch me defending Boris. Yes news readers are not at the top of the list (MPs sounds like a good place to start) but I'd say they're still near the top.
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Thing is I don't agree.

I don't think morals for most roles and in most places are acceptable in order to discriminate or make someone unviable for a role.

We are far more hung up on age in the UK than say the US.

If age gap as seems to be an issue for some here is an issue where do we draw the line.

When you were at most people tended to "date" similar age. As you get older and more mature that diversifies.
Now bear in mind we already have legal protections in place in regards the young.
How should anyone think its right to start to apply more age "morals"
If they are genuniely a problem then set them in law.

Whats the gap thats acceptable for say marriage. 2 years, 5, 10, 20?

I know people who still do not accept gay being legal. They are quite harsh in their views, but again back to Boris, they think he was fine as PM and fit to be in that role.
I cannot fathom how they come to those conclusions.
 
dowie said:
You were talking about hypocrisy and now you've made up your own analogy about throwing stones at other people's glass houses and you're sticking with it because well actually you just garbled the saying...
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I was talking about people who are screaming the loudest about expectations of people, potentially sitting in a glass house themselves.
Like its really not that difficult mate, I could not care for the saying you want to use so much, sayings get changed across the country, we dont need to go in to this, this is your attempt to deflect and side step the discussion and point again.

dowie said:
Sorry, I'm not a mind reader... especially not when it comes to posts as unhinged as yours.
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Straw man argument
mono-casual
unhinged

Typical Dowie words he uses to deflect and move away from the point being made by a user showing Dowies intelligence lacking.
 
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