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The Intel Arc owners thread

Emlyn_Dewar said:
I can’t help but feel a lot of people are going to be disappointed by their B70s, unless Intel pull their finger out and get *much* better support sorted out.
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I'm not so sure: Intel have their Battlematrix software which combines cards and apparently the price / performance metric is pretty good. But AI isn't my thing so I just don't know. I do agree that Intel are going to have to put the effort in, simply because they're not Nvidia.

Emlyn_Dewar said:
but I think Intel fired all the people who could make the software experience any good.
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I've not heard of firings.
 
You won’t be running the latest models at the real speeds the cards should be capable of. :D They need to pull their finger out.
It’s important when it comes to these cards as it’s basically their whole reason for existing. Took quite some time for them to even get Qwen 3.5 in their VLLM build.

Layoffs is one of the biggest things Intel has been know for over the last 2 or 3 years. Pretty safe bet it’s partially to blame for their lacking support in this area.
The B70 is definitely selling well everywhere though, so hopefully we’ll things start to change!
 
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So the B770 finally rears it's head in the form of a professional card for power users. I can see why at $900 a piece I can see why Intel has gone this route but give it a couple of years and these things will be super cheap on the 2nd market.
 
Of interest to the AI folks:

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Intel has an official Docker-based vLLM stack called llm-scaler, specifically built for the Arc Pro B-series. The release notes looked great. The Docker image is 20+ GB. I pulled it with the confidence of someone who has no idea what they're about to get into.
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Someone in a forum mentioned that Vulkan was significantly faster than SYCL on Arc B-series anyway.
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Things that surprised me (as someone who had no idea what they were doing)
The built-in web UI is genuinely nice. I had been curl-ing the API like a caveman for hours before someone told me to just open a browser. There is a full chat interface at localhost:8181. I felt silly.
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When I asked Claude to write this post at the end of the night, I asked it to write it as its own recollection of the weekend. Which means this is technically an AI writing about helping a human use AI to run AI locally on hardware made by a company whose AI stack didn't work, fixed by a different AI framework. We're deep in it now.
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I have finally got the B50 Pro up and running in Proxmox:

SR-IOV - Functionality

Code: 
04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Battlemage G21 [Intel Graphics] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 1114
        Capabilities: [420 v1] Physical Resizable BAR
                BAR 2: current size: 16GB, supported: 256MB 512MB 1GB 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB
        Capabilities: [220 v1] Virtual Resizable BAR
                BAR 2: current size: 8GB, supported: 256MB 512MB 1GB 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB
        Capabilities: [320 v1] Single Root I/O Virtualization (SR-IOV)
                IOVCap: Migration- 10BitTagReq+ IntMsgNum 0
                IOVCtl: Enable- Migration- Interrupt- MSE- ARIHierarchy+ 10BitTagReq-
                IOVSta: Migration-
                Initial VFs: 2, Total VFs: 2, Number of VFs: 0, Function Dependency Link: 00
                VF offset: 1, stride: 1, Device ID: e212
        Kernel driver in use: xe
        Kernel modules: xe

Enable SR-IOV functions

Code: 
root@pve-01:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/0000:02:00.0/0000:03:01.0/0000:04:00.0#  lspci | grep G21
04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Battlemage G21 [Intel Graphics]
04:00.1 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Battlemage G21 [Intel Graphics]
04:00.2 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Battlemage G21 [Intel Graphics]

Now I can finish setting this MS02-Ultra up as a Proxmox host.
 
spudbynight said:
Lots of sources such as THIS now reporting that Arc Celestial has been cancelled and next gen Druid looking doubtful.
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As much as i hate it i don't blame Intel... its not possible to operate in a profitable way in a market that is dominated and lets be honest controlled by Nvidia.

AMD are next, yes... who knows when but they too are going to bow out of discreet gaming GPU's at some point, they have the same problem Intel have, its not possible to be profitable.
 
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There's just no point in them competing in this market. Put out the pro offerings and leave us to rot, just like the rest of them are doing. :/
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
There's just no point in them competing in this market. Put out the pro offerings and leave us to rot, just like the rest of them are doing. :/
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Right.

Nvidia wont allow it, yes they have grown big enough to dictate that, but why? Aren't they afraid 'at least' of competition laws? No.... you see Nvidia want to rent you your GPU remotely from their computers over the internet for a recuring fee, that way they have more control over what you do with that and they make more money.

Now.... if this is their plan, and it is, that's a bit ****** don't you think? You wouldn't like that, no one would, so they just cannot have anyone offering you what you do want, that being you paying once and once only to own your own hardware in your own machine.

This is the end en****yfication of our decades of green envy, we had better start disliking NVidia enough not to buy their garbage and tech reviewers need to find 10 or 15 more IQ points so they can also come to this realisation and help do something about it before its too late, if only to save their own carers.
 
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