The Intel Arc owners thread

[Quartz]

My B580 can game at 6k high refresh rate but my RTX 4090 cannot. 76 fps in Tiny Tina's Wonderlands on medium settings, no AA.

 

[Quartz]

Overclocking the B70:

Building an Arc B780: Can We Beat the RTX 5070 and RX 9070?

PCGH pushes Intel's top graphics card to its limits, demonstrating what an “Arc B780” might be capable of. Will it outperform the RTX 5070 and RX 9070?

www.pcgameshardware.de

TLDR:

If Intel were to push it to the absolute limit, it could squeeze up to 20 percent more performance out of the current architecture—and would still fall short of the performance levels of the GeForce RTX 5070 and Radeon RX 9070. While the simulated "Arc B780" does manage to match the aforementioned AMD and Nvidia graphics cards in some cases, this is only at high resolutions and thus at borderline frame rates. Overall, we surpass the performance of older graphics cards, such as the Radeon RX 6800 XT, GeForce RTX 3080, Radeon RX 7800 XT, and GeForce RTX 4070—not a bad, though hardly impressive, level.

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In conclusion, we'd like to revisit the question of what an official gaming graphics card with the G31 chip might be capable of. Rumors of such an Arc B770 have been circulating for the past year and a half. Our prediction was that, at best, Intel could deliver 15 percent more performance with a 3-GHz graphics card than with the Arc Pro B70. This is exactly the level we saw in our test of the "Arc B780," which we were even able to overclock to 3.1 GHz. We shouldn't expect more—and we don't need to, because with a competitive price under 400 euros (with 16 GB of VRAM), an Arc B770 would be attractive. The chances of Intel releasing such a model are slim. Die-hard Arc fans and enthusiastic hobbyists don't have to wait; an Arc Pro B70 works perfectly with the gaming drivers. Anyone who opts for an Asrock Arc Pro B70 Creator and manually pushes it to peak performance will get the ultimate Intel graphics card, delivering 60 to 90 percent more performance than an Arc B580.

This bodes well for future Intel dGPUs, should they decide to build them. Unfortunately the B70 is currently out of stock at OCUK.

 

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Overclocking the B70:

Building an Arc B780: Can We Beat the RTX 5070 and RX 9070?

PCGH pushes Intel's top graphics card to its limits, demonstrating what an “Arc B780” might be capable of. Will it outperform the RTX 5070 and RX 9070?

www.pcgameshardware.de

TLDR:




This bodes well for future Intel dGPUs, should they decide to build them. Unfortunately the B70 is currently out of stock at OCUK.

The say it surpasses older GPU's like the RTX 3080 / RX 7800 XT when overclocked, it does, sure, by 1%, that's not even margin of error.

It still lags behind the RX 9070 by 27% and the RTX 5070 by 17% overclocked, stock is the real performance given that you cannot guarantee overclocking the RX 9070 is 48% faster with the RTX 5070 being 36% faster. these are £500 for the RX 9070 and RTX 5070.

Its real competitor is the RX 9060 XT 16GB, The B70 is 5% faster than it, that's a £390 GPU, the Cheapest B580 is already £330 and the £390 9060 XT 16GB is 28% faster, meaning the B580 is already over priced.

They cannot make them cheap enough, this is the problem, this is why Intel gave up, in relation to how much they cost to make they are no where near fast enough.

I know these tech journalists are well meaning trying to give Intel a leg up in the name of competition, its why they ignore the true competitiveness of it, its why they try to reframe the Overton Window. But Intel would have to lose money, quite a lot of money for every one they sell, at this point the VRAM on them would cost them more than what they could sell them for retail, this is not a good business model, especially for a recovering Intel and right now what i want is for them to recover, we can look at this again when they have money to throw away.

Right now the main problem is Nvidia, right now there is a really good solid alternative to Nvidia, if you're going to give anyone a leg up right now its where we need to be looking, later on when Intel are more stable they can try again and we can elevate them then.

 

[Quartz]

All good points but I'm looking to the future.

 

[Quartz]

The B390 is doing fairly well here: