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There’s a lot of broke millionaires around trust me
I think you meant ex millionaires?
There’s a lot of broke millionaires around trust me
The logic is that the homes under the hammer brigade seem to get on a roll of property buying and renting, they can do this because of equity gained on existing properties and borrowing against it. I have no quarrel with accidental landlords.I don't get this logic......... if it was the hobbiest landlord renting out HMO hell holes I would get it but (at least according to panorama I think it was) some of the big business companies are renting out disgusting hell holes .
I guess you would consider my wife and I hobbiest. we only have one property (the wife won't let me get another).. it's my wife's old flat she had before she met me.... I don't want to sell as will quite possibly go to our lad in 10 years or so (and if not will be a nice retirement vehicle) .
however I suspect out tenant who is on a hell of a good deal would not be happy if we sold ...
but how would it work? would you expect us to be forced to sell our flat? if so why? it's our property.
No they think they are millionaires and on paper can prove it.I think you meant ex millionaires?
What was suggested was landlords rent at below market rates and make up the difference with capital gains when they sell. Thats subsidising rent. For what reason is unclear.
There’s a lot of broke millionaires around trust me
How does that work out for housing associations? Actually and some hobbyists who agree a deal with the LHA who agree to supply tenants.If you punish people for investing in a market they won't invest in it. If you think supply is bad now that will make it far worse.
When you say hobbyist you mean I assume small landlords. If so it's ironic to suggest they have some sort of economy of scale, some form of monopoly to set market price. While at the same time proposing large landlords big business who definitely will have the scale to do that, at least locally. They will be focused on the shareholder not the tenant. They go bankrupt just like everyone else.
Exactly.And it assumes that property prices will increase above inflation.
Oh dear I meant there are a lot of ‘property developers’ who would call themselves millionaires because of their portfolio and in reality are rise in rates and other costs away from bankruptcy.A recession isn't going to make millionaires poor and poor people millionaires. If it reduces price of a house that millionaire is still going to outbid you.
No they think they are millionaires and on paper can prove it.
No you need to think a bit moreSo you are saying a person claming to be a millionaire through being asset rich is not as "true" a millionaire as one who is cash rich to the same level? That probably puts a lot of farmers and land owners in the poverty bracket![]()
The world is not fair. Someone with more money will be do more with it tham someone with less money. Usually.How does that work out for housing associations? Actually and some hobbyists who agree a deal with the LHA who agree to supply tenants.
I don’t want anyone to go bankrupt I just want a level playing field.
A landlord versus a ftb is no contest in terms of being able to raise finance.
Oh dear I meant there are a lot of ‘property developers’ who would call themselves millionaires because of their portfolio and in reality are rise in rates and other costs away from bankruptcy.
With power comes responsibility
Yes, exactly.I had to section my tenants who went silent and didn't pay for months. No rent increase or anything.
A few months since I got it back, completely redecorated after they left it in an absolute state, on the market, snapped up and sold. The stress on my head and bank account has gone. Very happy I sold up.
It's crazy though, rents are nearly double now. But a rent is zero if they don't pay.
This you?Yes, exactly.
I'm sorry you had to go through that, it can't be nice
The only thing stopping me selling is, as some tenants here have mentioned here is that it's someones home, and if I sell up, what is she going to do for a similar accommodation for the price she pays?
I've just had a look on rightmove and am shocked at the going rates, it's utterly insane!
lol do you take that attitude with all debts? ie if a shop keeper was complaining about shoplifting........ would be you so flippant then because the thief may have lots of debt so tough titty if the shop keeper loses some money due to theft.My heart bleeds. It's such an injustice when you can't turn the least well off in society into a guaranteed, hassle free income stream, isn't it.
Let's not worry about the fact that these people have stacks of debt and probably struggle to put food on the table. No, the main concern is whether the landlord is going to have to do some work, and not get that endless low-effort income they're used to.
Oh, the humanity.