The lowdown on Knock-off nigel

I saw them at the cinema as well, it was hilarious to see the quality they were making out most pirate versions look like. :rolleyes:

My stance is if they continue to pump out **** and charge me for it I will continue to watch for free.
 
RuMp3l4$k1n said:
My stance is if they continue to pump out **** and charge me for it I will continue to watch for free.
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Ah, that old pirate's logical fallacy... The films are crap, and they cost too much. As such, it is then OK to watch them for free.

Sorry, it's not. If they're crap, why do you want to watch them? Secondly, there's not really a provision in contract law that allows you bypass the normal process of offer and acceptance and skip straight to stealing/copyright infringement. If you deem th eoffer price to be too high, then you don't pay and you don't get the goods/service.

I await your wonderfully reasoned response.
 
vonhelmet said:
Ah, that old pirate's logical fallacy... The films are crap, and they cost too much. As such, it is then OK to watch them for free.

Sorry, it's not. If they're crap, why do you want to watch them? Secondly, there's not really a provision in contract law that allows you bypass the normal process of offer and acceptance and skip straight to stealing/copyright infringement. If you deem th eoffer price to be too high, then you don't pay and you don't get the goods/service.

I await your wonderfully reasoned response.
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stealing is cheaper
 
If you werent going to watch it in the cinema anyway or buy the CD does it really matter if you download it?
 
FrostedNipple said:
stealing is cheaper
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I can't tell if I'm about to fall into the sarchasm or if you're actually serious.

Se7en said:
William Somerset: I just don't think I can continue to live in a place that embraces and nurtures apathy as if it was virtue.
David Mills: You're no different. You're no better.
William Somerset: I didn't say I was different or better. I'm not. Hell, I sympathize; I sympathize completely. Apathy is the solution. I mean, it's easier to lose yourself in drugs than it is to cope with life. It's easier to steal what you want than it is to earn it. It's easier to beat a child than it is to raise it. Hell, love costs: it takes effort and work.
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RuMp3l4$k1n said:
I saw them at the cinema as well, it was hilarious to see the quality they were making out most pirate versions look like. :rolleyes:

My stance is if they continue to pump out **** and charge me for it I will continue to watch for free.
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If I see a film e.g. on the TV that really amazes me I often buy a DVD copy of it e.g. from play.com or amazon and let it sit on my shelf (I rarely watch a film twice). In that way I sort of support it as so to speak.
 
Ah I should have been clearer on my stance, selling knocks offs and acquiring them for your own viewing are different things. I'm all for free distribution but not profiting from it.

My response was a general throw away comment your right to call me up on it.
But as a video student I do genuinely find it hard to watch any films at the moment without shaking my head in disbelief at the regurgitated crap before my eyes, even if I thought it was something I wanted to watch in the first place.
So my comment on 'they continually make ****' stands for me personally, perhaps you like to watch the same old stories over and over I don't know.
It is a sad side effect of my course that I can no longer switch off and just enjoy brain candy.

I do purchase quite a few DVD's that I enjoy although films like that are becoming harder to find.

I can discuss this further if you like to, in a civil manner of course? :)
 
£7 to goto cinema now adays for one person! You go with ya partner you be lucky not to spend £20. Then a DVD comes out and costs like £15-20, a rip off if I say so my self. I will buy DVD's if I like them but only when they have come down in price no way in the world I pay full whack for a DVD.

I know if you cant afford it then maybe you shouldnt expect such luxuries, but how much profit do they make of these movies! Really telling me it costs near £7 for me to sit in a dark room and watch a movie? :confused:

I aint saying piracy is fine, because a lot of people d/l without the intetion of buying anything ever. If I feel something is worth supporting I will and I will buy the product. I will not throw money down the drain on the other hand though.
 
RuMp3l4$k1n said:
Ah I should have been clearer on my stance, selling knocks offs and acquiring them for your own viewing are different things. I'm all for free distribution but not profiting from it.

My response was a general throw away comment your right to call me up on it.
But as a video student I do genuinely find it hard to watch any films at the moment without shaking my head in disbelief at the regurgitated crap before my eyes, even if I thought it was something I wanted to watch in the first place.
So my comment on 'they continually make ****' stands for me personally, perhaps you like to watch the same old stories over and over I don't know.
It is a sad side effect of my course that I can no longer switch off and just enjoy brain candy.

I do purchase quite a few DVD's that I enjoy although films like that are becoming harder to find.

I can discuss this further if you like to, in a civil manner of course? :)
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But you're still just saying the films are crap so they're not worth paying for. If they're so bad, why are you watching them?
 
why try in life when you can get it all for free! All you have to do is go to France, loose all documents making you loose your identity, come to this country and you'll get everything for free :)
 
I'll happily spend money to do things I enjoy, I buy music (at the moment, I'm on Napster's rental package), I got to the cinema etc. However I get shafted for doing it. Napster's got DRM on the tracks, the cinema tickets cost £6.50 a piece. Until the expensive real stuff is as good as the free stuff, people will take the free stuff.

DVD rips are on the net for most movies when the film is still in the cinema. Why does Hollywood not do a decent downloads service and charge a few quid? If you make it quick, easy and high quality at a reasonable price, people would use it. Not everyone, most people who go to the cinema will still go to the cinema, but you'd capture a lot of the people who watch pirate movies now.

Look at iTunes as a business model only imagine if customers weren't being shafted, I think the DVD piracy business would drop greatly. My $0.02.

The whole "knock-off Nigel" thing is a waste of space. It ***** me right off that when I pay £6.50 to go to the cinema, I have to sit through an anti-piracy advert. I'M ALREADY THERE FFS, YOU'RE ALREADY SHAFTING ME, JUST GET ON WITH IT!
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vonhelmet said:
But you're still just saying the films are crap so they're not worth paying for. If they're so bad, why are you watching them?
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Not being funny, but you can't really say that. How do you know whether something is good or not without watching it for yourself? You can't tell somebody to avoid watching all films?
 
lol nexy, thats what gets me I could d/l the movie and not watch that piracy **** at beginning :p

I was talking to the G/F about it also, and we both wondered why they havent released a download scheme for movies. iTunes is huge, so if they did this with movies imagine the money they would make. I remember they released King Kong on universal site or something and it was around $20??
 
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