The lowdown on Knock-off nigel

Nexy said:
It ***** me right off that when I pay £6.50 to go to the cinema, I have to sit through an anti-piracy advert. I'M ALREADY THERE FFS, YOU'RE ALREADY SHAFTING ME, JUST GET ON WITH IT!
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Hahaha, i thought exactly the same thing whilst going to see Transformers the other day. I've PAID to see the thing, why are you telling me this? Out of principal i had to go home and download Transformers straight away, then delete it as i'd already seen it :D
 
i love the test on the knock-off nigel website.. fairly innocent pictures then "HAVE YOU EVER ILLEGALY DOWNLOADED A FILM"... i wounder if they are tracking who clicks yes :p
 
RuMp3l4$k1n said:
No I'm retracting that part of my comment but explaining to you why I feel film as an art form is **** right now. As to why I watch the films, if I didn't study the art form how could I possibly expect to change it in the future? :confused: Or even have the right to critique it?
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Oh, sorry, you're right. I forgot that there's an exemption from the copyright laws if you have some vague intentions of working in the industry. :rolleyes:
 
Topgun said:
It is interesting to note that cinemas don't actually make a lot of money on ticket sales, something like 5% on a £7 ticket iirc. Their profit is almost entirely from ancillary services (popcorn, hot dogs, advertising).

The other 95% of ticket revenues goes back to distributers/movie studios of which a huge chunk of that goes back to the actors; whom the studios are prepared to pay big bucks for. This is basically insurance for the studios because with Brad Pitt onboard, even the crappiest movie won't lose you money!
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Your quite correct, an adult ticket at my work costs £5.50 (Which we get plenty of complaints about) and when you factor in the cost of running 6 projectors, paying a projectionist (not to mention as many as 6 or 7 floor staff and 2 managers when its busy) and repairing the chairs broken by muppets who continue to put their feet up on them after you've told them not to for the 3rd time we loose money on films. All our profit is made on the massively overpriced sweets and popcorn.
 
If it wasn't for internet piracy alone then we would all be paying at least £25 for an album, £10 for a single and probably £50 for HD DVD's

The prices for media has been forced to lower or at least it hasn't raised since things like Kazaa hit the main stream.


I for one am happy that we have such large levels of piracy because it has forced an industry of disgustingly greedy people from charging us for what costs them nothing to produce.

I don't know if you noticed however, but Apple are going to start charging more for MP3's on itunes. You can bet the others will follow suit too.


Where in the text of capitalism does it say you must keep charging more and more each year to appease shareholders.
It doesn't say anything about it anywhere I think you will find. Instead we have this horrible system of falsely bumping up prices of all products year after year and this attitude that it's okay because everyone else does it!

The costs for making CD's, DVD's and even recording the artists in the studios has done nothing but decline.

Don't hate pirates, you should be happy we have them because nothing else has so much as slowed down the villainy that we have at the other end of the spectrum.
 
PoD said:
Where in the text of capitalism does it say you must keep charging more and more each year to appease shareholders.
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Er - that pretty much is definition of capitalism. It's not so much appease though, as bribe. Or "return on investment" as I believe it is technically known.



And it costs nothing to produce music or film? What is your world like? Can I visit some time? It costs tens of millions to make a film, and hundreds of thousands to make an album - at least any mainstream stuff. You might validly argue that some artists are overpriced, but if they bring in the sales, most companies consider it money well spent.



And anyway, even if CDs and DVDs cost £1.50 there'd still be people who'd want to get them free, out of the general principle of not parting with money.


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RuMp3l4$k1n said:
I saw them at the cinema as well, it was hilarious to see the quality they were making out most pirate versions look like. :rolleyes:

My stance is if they continue to pump out **** and charge me for it I will continue to watch for free.
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I know, that always makes me laugh, they make out that the quality of knock off DVD's is terrible, when in reality they are exactly the same as the real thing.
 
R5Rich said:
Slight flaw in this theory

Reviews are of people who may not have same taste as you, I enjoy DnB music. Infact I LOVE it, now you may hate it but our tastes are different. I dont really go on reviews. Look in the music & box office section people say they hate one film followed by posts of people saying they love it. Who are you going to believe?
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Seconded, i watch the bbc guy do a couple of movie reviews, he hammered Transformers (AWESOME!) & Evan Almighty (harmless feelgood movie) and recommened some obscure subtitled foreign thing. Who do they aim these reviews at? :confused:
 
Whether motion picture piracy is morally justifiable for not is always going to be a matter for debate. For instance, it could be considered a victimless crime that only affects one of the greediest faces of capitalism, however it is still stealing whichever way you spin it.

Nonetheless, one thing is for certain; pirated DVDs are not necessarily always of a poor quality as most government/industry propaganda would have you believe.
 
Im sure everyones downloaded or watched a few knock off dvds in their time, but what i would say is ive probably bought more dvds having done that, than had i not.
 
[TW]Fox said:
My local Vue is £4.99. I go all the time - it's a good social thing, it's dead cheap, and nothing beats the big screen.
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Thinking about the adverts that say 'nothing beats the big screen experience', they go on to show an example of a pirate DVD where someone stands up and walks across the screen, trying to say how annoying this is...NEWS FLASH: this happens in the damn cinema even if you go, along with the people laughing stupid loudly, talking all the way through the film etc. Maybe I'm just a bit too intolerant :D
 
I totally agree with everyones thoughts on this, if the price of DVD dropped to about £4/5 then I'd certainly not consider downloading films.

And as for the guy who said DVD's would be £50, remember COMPETITION is also a key force in market economies.

Davem
 
If you could download films legally the same time they are on the cinema then id deffo do that.

Its £6:50 for me to go to the cinema, with my gf thats another £6:50. Plus £5:50 for a popcorn+coke combo.

Its stupid, no wonder people download movies.

Now if you had the option to download legally for £4 i for one would do that. But then if everyone had them at home to watch anyway, they wouldn't get people to buy the dvd's would they?
 
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