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Small protests won't do it.

If the stadium was half empty week after week, they'd start thinking about selling. It has to be something drastic like that.

However, due to the massive fanbase and tourists etc, that's not realistic.

I think we're stuck with them and we just have to hope they get the football operation in order.
 
Robert said:
I’d rather he stuck with forest this season tbh…game time and stability
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Our midfield isn't particularly good. Garner is 21 and has a decent level of experience now.

If he's good enough, he'll play. Initials indications are Ten Hag quite likes him.
 
I'm slightly wary of being too harsh because of the 'family reasons' thing with Ronaldo.

However, the consensus seems to be that it's a ploy to avoid attending training and going on the tour.

I hope we just get rid of him ASAP now. We do not need the Ronaldo circus undermining preseason and Ten Hag's first few weeks in charge. I don't think he'll be remembered fondly, put it that way.
 
Just watched Ten Hag's first press conference.

About 9 of the 11 questions were about Ronaldo. Didn't give much away and said he's planning ahead with him etc, but it sounds like he does indeed want to go.

He also said Maguire will stay as captain, but admittedly changing that is tricky at short notice.

Shamikebab said:
Also if you think City are buying Haaland for peanuts you don't understand anything.
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I agree. The figures involved in the Haaland deal will be eye watering, it goes beyond transfer fee and wages.

Regardless of that, we're not really in a position to sign him at present.
 
I would expect the true costs are higher. He's represented by the late Mino Raiola's agency, who are not known for being particularly above board. Speculative on my part, but there will be other large sums involved. The initial fee was low as it was a release clause.

Mbappe's new deal has some unusual circumstances, but he's being paid €100m upfront, and €50m a year, for 3 years. Haaland as you rightly say is on a similar level.

Nobody is suggesting we aren't being shown up by City? However, my original point stands - we couldn't have signed him this summer anyway. I am also not for one second defending any of our deals, we have been a complete shambles the past few years.
 
fez said:
Yeah, its good to see someone who is so proactive and exacting with what he expects from players.

My big fear is Ronaldo. I worry that he will come back, not like being told what to do and the powers that be will tell EtH he has to indulge Ronaldo.
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Unless ETH is telling fibs, he's keen to use him and thinks he can play in the system. I think that's true to an extent. Haller was good there.

I'm not too worried about the owners trying to force ETH to play him, they'd rather finish 4th and Ronaldo will leave in a year - although there was talk of triggering his contract extension! :eek:

For all Ronaldo's faults, he will be desperate to win something so should make a good effort - though that may be a tall order in ETH's first season.

I would still rather he left though, for the reasons you stated. It stops a potential problem further down the line.
 
Are there many examples of incredibly talented players, who have coasted for years, then suddenly become consistent in the same team under a new manager?
 
Even with FDJ we don't have a traditional DM. Like Fabinho or Rodri.

My thinking is that means ETH will want us playing a very high line, and Martinez is fast so will be able to get back and cover where needed.

I wonder if Eriksen might be able to play the FDJ role if we can't get the deal done.

VDB is only capable of playing high up the pitch, so he's out of the question in midfield, ETH has said as much.

Fred and Eriksen would be a bit too lightweight against many teams, but McT/Fred is not exactly a great partnership...
 
We are indeed in a very tricky situation. I said before the season started we needed a strong and authoritative showing in the transfer market to give ETH the best possible start - and that hasn't happened. Not even close.

A few losses and poor results don't bother me at all. The squad is sub par and ETH needs time to study the players and work with them. Unless we do some amazing transfer business, top 4 will be difficult.

Brighton are a good team and in isolation the result doesn't really matter. Liverpool's result at Fulham was a bigger blow for them given every point counts when you're up against Man City.

The issue is, the vultures are permanently circling. The second we lose, the media and some fans go absolutely mental, prophesying the end of days.

fez said:
Nothing is going to make the glazers sell short of OT being empty every week but that ain't happening. We've just got to hope that they finally are sick of being a mess and actually realise that they are ******* money up the wall for nothing and its simply a bad way to run a business.

Thats the bit I don't understand. There is quite literally zero benefit to running the club the way they do. They aren't penny pinching. They aren't profiting more by running the club badly. It's just bizarre.
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Yes, I've never understood that either. It doesn't make sense on any level.
 
C Kent said:
Why would they? The commercial side of the business continued to grow for a very long time, the only issues is that you aren't the top dogs anymore.

They've continually given Utd fans what they ask for, appointed the manager that Ferguson recommended, appointed a well respected manager in LVG that the fans were excited about, appointed Mourinho who every utd fan was wetting their knickers about at the time, appointed a fan favourite in OGS and now appointed Ten Hag who the majority of fans wanted. They've also continuously backed every manager with vast sums or you wouldn't be the biggest spenders over the past decade.
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But the football structure is non-existent/a mess. You can't run a club by permanently attempting to appease the fans. We have indeed spent a fortune, very, very badly.

Ten Hag is a fine managerial appointment but the club need to back him properly too.
 
I watched the match and it was incredibly poor, much like our games last season. Lack of effort, lack of quality, lack of everything.

When walking out, the players looked defeated before the game even started, which isn't good, and something we saw last season too.

That being said, you can't really legislate for De Gea having a mare, although it's not the most rare occurrence...
 
The_One said:
Well neither did musk really he was joking just like hes joked about other clubs its almost become a meme

Shouldnt be surprised really you get excited everytime a player is linked with utd :cry:
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No, he categorically did say that. Then later clarified if he was to buy a team, it would be Man Utd as he supported them.

I assumed it was a joke from the start as I know what he's like, but the fact it's made headline global news would suggest most people weren't sure.

Not sure what transfers have to do with it...?
 
Cristiano Ronaldo has been cautioned by police after footage emerged of the Manchester United forward appearing to smash a phone out of an Everton fan's hand at a match.

Yet another negative thing.
 
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