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Nani | Cult Heroes | Manchester United
Slightly rose tinted glasses there. He was another hugely frustrating player. Electric on his day but utterly awful about 80% of the time. Not "Nani has had a bad game" but "Nani had an awful game and ruined the match for United" bad. He would be having a shocker and instead of helping the team and passing to another player for a tap in he would selfishly smash shot after shot into the stands and become more and more greedy as the game went on. 40 goals in 7 seasons isn't a good return for a player in his position and with the talent around him.
We really are good at looking back on players and the last few years under Fergie with a completely different view to the reality. Fergies last few years were comprised of a lot of **** football and a large accumulation of sub-par players and others that were past it.
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a lot of you said is true and as you said the latter years for Fergie reign it was an ok team managed really well
live RvP - signed to deliver a title, which he duly did so irrespective of paying 3 more years of high wages for virtually no output.
Fergie did what he always did and got the best out of almost all of his players and was the master at winning league titles. Beat the small teams and hope to steal a win or draw from your direct rivals. Won't work in Europe but in the PL consistency is king.
RvP was a genius signing. That first year for us he was sublime. Scored some of the best goals I have seen from a United striker.
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I always liked nani.
He was never going to be Ronaldo mk2 but then no one was.
Was he better than jesper blonqvist jordi cryuf and Philip mulryne ? Of course.
Who would I rather have jessi lindgard or nani ?
Watch "Nani - all 41 goals for Manchester United" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/1aA7s_Doeyc
He was a nanimal
He was never going to be Ronaldo mk2 but then no one was.
Was he better than jesper blonqvist jordi cryuf and Philip mulryne ? Of course.
Who would I rather have jessi lindgard or nani ?
Watch "Nani - all 41 goals for Manchester United" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/1aA7s_Doeyc
He was a nanimal
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I always liked Nani too but he was so frustrating. He had so much talent but he was so inconsistent.
On the topic of Nani vs Lingard I would take Lingard. He scores some cracking goals and contributes far more to the team than Nani did. Nani was selfish and detrimental to the team half the time whereas Lingard works for the team. Nani always seemed to be trying to emulate Ronaldo but without the ability. 41 goals in 7 seasons isn't good and although a lot of them were crackers I would rather he scored 60 average goals than 41 screamers. Look at Ronaldos goals at RM and very few of them are worldies. Most are tap ins and the result of his athleticism, positional awareness and pace (and having a world class assisting cast around him).
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Lindgard often.goes for slow curling shots that most keepers save and cliffs loads of chances.
He's frustratingnin that he's crap but scores the odd decent goal.
Watch that nani YouTube video I posted. Remind yourself of the stunners
He's frustratingnin that he's crap but scores the odd decent goal.
Watch that nani YouTube video I posted. Remind yourself of the stunners
Hargreaves was sublime in the CL final is Moscow (well majority of that season to be fair) , but it still doesn't stop from being the case that it was a bad signing because of the three subsequent years.
RvP was a dead cert he was going to be off the pitch more than on it after his latter years with Arsenal, at least with OH it wasn't certain .
That's what infuriates me with Mata currently - he may be sublime on the ball, but his record in front of goal is shocking for a forward (which he has effectively always been for Utd) - even 2 yards in front of an open net he is more likely to miss than even hit the target (let alone score).
Less said about his tackling as a CM when deployed in a 3 the better (the invisible man would be better)
Lingard every day of the week. On his day Nani was unplayable (like a couple of games vs Arsenal, one in the league one in the FA Cup) but that day was too rare for him to continue at Utd, most of the time he was bang average.
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I read somewhere that Nani was complaining of not being supported or believed in enough at Utd. He said something in the style of him being better if there was more confidence in him etc. Too bad he is in a business where you actually have to deliver to keep playing..
You could see he had a massive ego. He got plenty of chances to nail down a spot in the team but he was woefully inconsistent. Players like Park Ji Sung and Fletcher got more game time because they did what they were asked to do and didn't bring the team down with them when they weren't having a great game.
Would rather have kept Fellani and stuck him at the back. Seriously what the ****?
Just when you thoguht MUFC were turning a corner.
4.5 year contract for a player who is not only not good enough but is constantly injured and to top it off, he makes game changing mistakes. Theres being a bit sub par and not tracking a man and then there is Phil Jones and his desperate lunges into tackles in the box and his falling over at the worst times.
Utterly baffling decision unless this is to try and protect his value (of which there is very little)
Utterly baffling decision unless this is to try and protect his value (of which there is very little)
Club is still run by "finance experts" who believe Jones / Fellaini / Rojo/ Young are assets that need to be secured against walking away for free.
In general this is the way it should be - but there are some players , especially those at the very end of their careers that it just makes no sense to do this. It also makes the younger ones much harder to move on.
Ignoring wages for a moment - how much is Jones worth to a Bournemouth / Everton / Wolves area (ie 7th - 12th ) in the summer? £10-15m maybe £20m if you are lucky and the "English tax" and experience....but then you think of his quality and injury record.....lucky to get £10m before his newly inflated wages and of course he will want to "fight for his place" rather than be eased out quietly. Whats even more annoying is the time all this negotiations will take .....to be honest unless he vastly improves (which would be a surprise) I cant see Sanchez lasting beyond the summer either....and he will be even harder to move on (the player looks like he wants to go, but cant see many clubs wanting to take on the gigantic wages even if Utd are willing to let him go with a tiny transfer fee).
In general this is the way it should be - but there are some players , especially those at the very end of their careers that it just makes no sense to do this. It also makes the younger ones much harder to move on.
Ignoring wages for a moment - how much is Jones worth to a Bournemouth / Everton / Wolves area (ie 7th - 12th ) in the summer? £10-15m maybe £20m if you are lucky and the "English tax" and experience....but then you think of his quality and injury record.....lucky to get £10m before his newly inflated wages and of course he will want to "fight for his place" rather than be eased out quietly. Whats even more annoying is the time all this negotiations will take .....to be honest unless he vastly improves (which would be a surprise) I cant see Sanchez lasting beyond the summer either....and he will be even harder to move on (the player looks like he wants to go, but cant see many clubs wanting to take on the gigantic wages even if Utd are willing to let him go with a tiny transfer fee).
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I doubt it's just his decision, it makes sense to not lose him on a free transfer.