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No different to usual then, just now it’s backed up with an injury.
Re Woodward, he often gets praised for commercial success but I have no idea why. For a start, Utd's commercial revenue has stagnated for years and is in danger of going backwards but I'm not sure how involved he ever was in commercial deals - Utd have a commercial team that handles all that.
He's a banker that masterminded the Glazers debt juggling act, that allowed them to buy Utd without putting very much of their own money up. His main role has always been to advise the Glazers on the financials of their ownership - how and when to refinance debt, the partial flotation and presumably their selling off of small chunks of shares at the right times.
He's a banker that masterminded the Glazers debt juggling act, that allowed them to buy Utd without putting very much of their own money up. His main role has always been to advise the Glazers on the financials of their ownership - how and when to refinance debt, the partial flotation and presumably their selling off of small chunks of shares at the right times.
No different to usual then, just now it’s backed up with an injury.
I had quietly hoped we'd have tried to push him out in January, i'm still expecting us to offer him a huge 5yr contract!
There is only so much you can do come a point. In 3-4 years from 2012 our commercial revenue went from about £150 to close to £350m. Managing to do that and maintain it while delivering the utter ***** on the pitch is quite the achievement in my books.
I'm not sure thats entirely true. Everyone talks about Woodwards part in transfers, management appointments and their commercial activities. Of course there will be a team around him but he is by all accounts far too involved in the football side of things than he should be.
Utd's commercial revenue has never been that much and you have to remember that most commercial deals, particularly the major ones, are often long term deals - Utd signed their Adidas and Chevy deals prior to Utd's slump in performances really setting in. That's besides the point though. I don't believe Woodward would have been a major factor in the commercial deals Utd have signed at any point of his time at Utd. Utd have a dedicated commercial team that do those deals.
And of course he'll have a say in other areas because everything that happens at Utd all feeds back into his main task which is to handle the finances of Utd and the Glazers ownership. How much the club are spending on transfers, whether they're in or out of the CL etc all effects Utd's finances, how much the club is worth, if, when and how they can sell off small parcels of shares and so on.
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“Manchester United are willing to sell England midfielder Jesse Lingard for £10m in January”
I mean…
I mean…
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Meanwhile Rice has a price tag of 100m, despite lingard banging in goals last season for Wham.
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I mean Rice is younger and WH don't want to sell...so they can throw around whatever figure they want and see who bids.
EDIT: Especially if they know a club needs a player like him!
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Which (mid to lower) Premier league teams don't want or need a midfielder who could score 10 goals for them in a season?
That could be the difference between regation or staying up or europa cup or mid table.
Lingard, Jones & Mata should have been sold / released in the summer it's poor management. Same with Pogba. If any club let's a player of worth's contact run down then they only have themselves to blame
When Pogba leaves for free again and goes on to play well for the next club it just makes a massive joke
Pogba leaves for free.... Purchased back for 90 mil plus a tone on wages and then leaves for free again wtf
When Pogba leaves for free again and goes on to play well for the next club it just makes a massive joke
Pogba leaves for free.... Purchased back for 90 mil plus a tone on wages and then leaves for free again wtf
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Add Matic to that list.
You'd wipe 15m off the wage bill easily and reduce the age of the squad massively.
These players don't even play or shouldn't do.
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It would be quite easy in theory to get Declan rice in the team without even troubling or wasting any money. Sell J Lingz for 10-15 million, Matic for the same. If they sold Pogba in the summer for 60 ish you would have basically been there with Rice and the squad would be stronger as a result.
We also still have Tony Martial who is easily 50 million. He isn't going to get a game any time soon.
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Matic won't sell for money. Too old and useless.
Yes we should have tried for a pogba sale but I believe we thought that a good league and European run with him in the team may convince him to stay...
Yes I think time to let Tony go. £40-50m could be achieved.
I don't even think Declan Rice will fix us tbh. And 100m if we spend this on him I guarantee we would struggle to sell him for anywhere near 50m in the next 5 years so we effectively lose 50m as soon as we take him off the forecourt.
Kessie or Kalvin for less than half would do or give vdb a run there.
United aren't getting 50 mil for Martial and certainly not 15 for a 33 year old Matic.
Kalvin Phillips isn't going to go to United. Not in a million years does he make that switch.
Kalvin Phillips isn't going to go to United. Not in a million years does he make that switch.
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A million years is a lonnng time
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It really is just incredible how bad they manage the club. It’s actually pretty funny, just means less money they can take out of the club at the end of the day.
It’s a difficult one with pogba but he’s been there for a good few years now and only turns up once a month if that. Should have really cut the ties last year when M.R was saying he wants out.
Martial will probably end up at Newcastle/Spurs and end up being amazing for either of them.