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Maybe with a large OEM and you will be fighting for that position with others. In the real world 20-25k. plus to be fair the standard of graduates now are shocking (no disrespect)
For some reason PCB engineers are lowly folk anyway and all of them a little bit weird. I guess that comes from looking at DOTS all day.
But i put electronics in posh boxes easy life now
gave up chasing the 80K a year in engineering too much hard work.But are you worth it ?
I can answer that for you, simply No, but good luck if you can get it.
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I have friends who live in Long Buckby, a small village not far from either Daventry or Northampton. It's on the trainline between London and Birmingham so easy to do a day trip back to London or commute to Birmingham / Northampton for work. Think it was about an hour 15mins journey to London.
It's a nice enough village with a very large outdoor play area for children if that's important.
It's a nice enough village with a very large outdoor play area for children if that's important.
There happy enough and both of them have been working here for 15years + and I dare say have much more knowledge under there belt than someone who has job hopped every 2 years or leave when a project gets difficult. but then I work for company where a great deal of people have been here 10 years or more. Very rare these days.
From what i can tell there are few places that require them full time so quite a few are contractors (you will see less of these soon due to new tax rules)
I would never pay a graduate with 2yrs experience 38k, again. in the waiting room till they have the balls to leave.
A quick look on jobsite and as expected salary ranges of 20-25k for a noob
Another strange expression which you've said twice now. I'm interested how people can get to that stage in your mind. Are they supposed to tell you they want 38k in the interview and then you walk out? Or do they say before the interview and you just leave them waiting all day?
The rest of the stuff you've said in this thread is equally obscure. And it's "their", not "there".
I don't think I've ever discussed salary during an interview. It has been something over the phone after the interview. More them have a salary range for the job and you have an expectation. Either the salary meets expectation or you move on. It does depend hugely on the role and who you want for it. It is a balance of getting the right person for the job and getting them for the salary you can pay. Both have to be right for a hire. If you are struggling because of the later then the salary offer has to increase. Engineering does have a salary issue but it also has huge issue with getting the right skills so companies will inevitably have to increase salaries or risk going under. Having the right skills is more important than salary for industry. That leads to a successful business.
Yep, in the waiting room all day, They waste my time in changing there salary expectations prior to interview and I will waste there time.
See what I did there ?
Oh the irony.
Actually in a car with a colleague on the way back from Williams on a small jolly and he agrees with me a recent graduate is worthless these-days, but then if you can get it go go for it. The world needs more engineers and the crying shame is the UK is desperately short of them and as we are discussing compared to other professions which require much less knowledge and skill is vastly underpaid in general. (we can blame the BBC for this but that is another rant entirely)
See what I did there ?
Oh the irony.
Actually in a car with a colleague on the way back from Williams on a small jolly and he agrees with me a recent graduate is worthless these-days, but then if you can get it go go for it. The world needs more engineers and the crying shame is the UK is desperately short of them and as we are discussing compared to other professions which require much less knowledge and skill is vastly underpaid in general. (we can blame the BBC for this but that is another rant entirely)
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£26-£30k isn't what I would be 'expecting'. Its what the graduate roles are offering these days, and dependant on the company and if I would be moving into a more managerial role, I could be on £40k by the time i'm 30.
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Depends on your field, Personally if I was leaving uni again I would go Nuclear. Give aerospace a miss as its dreadfully slow paced and really really boring. I used to fix helicopters and it was damm sight more fun than designing stuff for them. (I did it back to front and did the Army before UNI)
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Never really thought about nuclear. The pay working for companies like Shell and BP makes working for them attractive (~£35k+) out of uni, but it doesn't really interest me. I'm looking at engines & powertrain.
Wow
1: 30k is not a pittance for starters and some people don't even earn half that.
2: They have families, mortgage to pay and responsibility`s with house prices moving to say Cambridge you would be paying the difference earned in a mortgage.
3: Its the going rate more or less in there field.
4: They fall under electrical engineering so i can sleep at night guilt free.
Or more bluntly once you are down with kids and there in school and settled into life where you are its the path of least resistance. Its called not living in London and being a adult. Better the devil you know and all that.