The nervous wait to exchange....

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dLockers said:
Literally no one else would GAF.

You have an enormous plot compared to them, and get shared "enjoyment" from the fence.
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How is it of no concern though? A typical old house would have 3 fences surrounding their back garden, with 1 house on each side, and be responsible for just one of those fences. This property, since the fence extends all the way past the front and that is shared with other properties, I need to worry about those sections being damaged and ultimately paying towards, and also whether or not this fact makes it a difficult sell further down the road.

I'm thinking about worst case scenarios where a bad storm takes out a chunk of the fences, or if those other people living in those surrounding houses have hyperactive kids who might smack a football too hard or whatever else to damage that section, but my point is I've got a total of 7 or 8 houses worth of fencing to worry about paying towards, whereas most houses have just 3, if that makes sense. In my eyes, surely a potential cost and liability is off-putting?
 
No offence...

If that is what might make you not go through with a house you'll never go through with it.

In grand scheme of owning a house fixing a fence is not even on the o list.
I didn't even check fence ownership on the deeds. Just that boundaries looked in line with the fence.
 
Smeghead said:
How is it of no concern though? A typical old house would have 3 fences surrounding their back garden, with 1 house on each side, and be responsible for just one of those fences. This property, since the fence extends all the way past the front and that is shared with other properties, I need to worry about those sections being damaged and ultimately paying towards, and also whether or not this fact makes it a difficult sell further down the road.

I'm thinking about worst case scenarios where a bad storm takes out a chunk of the fences, or if those other people living in those surrounding houses have hyperactive kids who might smack a football too hard or whatever else to damage that section, but my point is I've got a total of 7 or 8 houses worth of fencing to worry about paying towards, whereas most houses have just 3, if that makes sense. In my eyes, surely a potential cost and liability is off-putting?
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You are worrying about this way too much. If these things concern you as much as you say I'd recommend not purchasing and looking to rent somewhere where you won't be liable for anything like this.

*IF* a bad storm....? We had one of the worst storms for many years recently and maybe a couple of fence panels per road at most around our way needed replacing, probably cost the people a few hundred quid for something that may happen every 10-20 years.

This should be a complete non-thought, the fences are unlikely to be suddenly damaged that they need immediate replacement, they can often be repaired and generally you can visually see when they need replacing (often only a panel at a time) and they cost to replace is very small. There are thousands of other things in the house which would cost much more to replace / repair or resolve and can't easily be monitored.

If you were my buyer I'd be pulling my hair out.
 
Peerzy said:
You are worrying about this way too much. If these things concern you as much as you say I'd recommend not purchasing and looking to rent somewhere where you won't be liable for anything like this.

*IF* a bad storm....? We had one of the worst storms for many years recently and maybe a couple of fence panels per road at most around our way needed replacing, probably cost the people a few hundred quid for something that may happen every 10-20 years.

This should be a complete non-thought, the fences are unlikely to be suddenly damaged that they need immediate replacement, they can often be repaired and generally you can visually see when they need replacing (often only a panel at a time) and they cost to replace is very small. There are thousands of other things in the house which would cost much more to replace / repair or resolve and can't easily be monitored.

If you were my buyer I'd be pulling my hair out.
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agreed.
 
I'm not saying it's a complete absolute showstopper for me (I was probably just a little frustrated on the previous page with the clueless agent and was speaking with a bit of hyperbole), but I'm simply trying to gauge if this would be a bum deal, especially thinking ahead to when I go on to sell this, from an outsider's perspective. Obviously it turns out not to be.

413x said:
I didn't even check fence ownership on the deeds. Just that boundaries looked in line with the fence.
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So if you ended up with 100% responsibility for each fence, it would be a complete non-issue for you? Again, not saying it would be deal-breaker. Just saying, it might make some people stop and think "oh, that's strange". It's not exactly a good thing, is it?

I'm just a bit extra cautious when it comes to boundaries, as my parents went through a bit of a thing where a fence was damaged after a storm funnily enough, and the neighbour it was shared with were adamant they had no responsibility over ANY of their fences (is that even possible?). Cue a lot of back and forth and re-checking deeds that was just a big polava.
 
Smeghead said:
I'm not saying it's a complete absolute showstopper for me (I was probably just a little frustrated on the previous page with the clueless agent and was speaking with a bit of hyperbole), but I'm simply trying to gauge if this would be a bum deal, especially thinking ahead to when I go on to sell this, from an outsider's perspective. Obviously it turns out not to be.


So if you ended up with 100% responsibility for each fence, it would be a complete non-issue for you? Again, not saying it would be deal-breaker. Just saying, it might make some people stop and think "oh, that's strange". It's not exactly a good thing, is it?

I'm just a bit extra cautious when it comes to boundaries, as my parents went through a bit of a thing where a fence was damaged after a storm funnily enough, and the neighbour it was shared with were adamant they had no responsibility over ANY of their fences (is that even possible?). Cue a lot of back and forth and re-checking deeds that was just a big polava.
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Definitely wouldn't be an issue. A fence might (might) come down once in your whole time owning a property. It's insignificant in cost to the whole property.
And if it does. It needs a new fence anyway.

Our boiler is 20 years old. But still took house on.

No, it wouldn't be an issue for me personally.
Maybe if the fence was completely rotten I'd want to talk about it. But if it looks in OK nick. No I Wouldn't (and didn't) even question it.

I assume we are responsible for all our fence as it was obviously paid for by our previous owners.
It is an epic fence to be fair.
 
Smeghead said:
I'm not saying it's a complete absolute showstopper for me (I was probably just a little frustrated on the previous page with the clueless agent and was speaking with a bit of hyperbole), but I'm simply trying to gauge if this would be a bum deal, especially thinking ahead to when I go on to sell this, from an outsider's perspective. Obviously it turns out not to be.



So if you ended up with 100% responsibility for each fence, it would be a complete non-issue for you? Again, not saying it would be deal-breaker. Just saying, it might make some people stop and think "oh, that's strange". It's not exactly a good thing, is it?

I'm just a bit extra cautious when it comes to boundaries, as my parents went through a bit of a thing where a fence was damaged after a storm funnily enough, and the neighbour it was shared with were adamant they had no responsibility over ANY of their fences (is that even possible?). Cue a lot of back and forth and re-checking deeds that was just a big polava.
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ask sellers how often they have to repair the fences :)
 
Seriously wouldn't let a fence stop you buying a house.

Our fence was a rotten pile of wood and we still bought the house. It was just one more thing we took into account when we made the offer. Got a total of 20k knocked off the asking price.

I replaced all the panels recently.
 
Smeghead said:
So if you ended up with 100% responsibility for each fence, it would be a complete non-issue for you? Again, not saying it would be deal-breaker. Just saying, it might make some people stop and think "oh, that's strange". It's not exactly a good thing, is it?

I'm just a bit extra cautious when it comes to boundaries, as my parents went through a bit of a thing where a fence was damaged after a storm funnily enough, and the neighbour it was shared with were adamant they had no responsibility over ANY of their fences (is that even possible?). Cue a lot of back and forth and re-checking deeds that was just a big polava.
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I did :)

CBA with back and forth to neighbours, I put a 6ft fence up around our entire garden.

grudas said:
ask sellers how often they have to repair the fences :)
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Replaced our once in the 11 years weve been here :)


IvanDobskey said:
Seriously wouldn't let a fence stop you buying a house.

Our fence was a rotten pile of wood and we still bought the house. It was just one more thing we took into account when we made the offer. Got a total of 20k knocked off the asking price.

I replaced all the panels recently.
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Same 3 fences, all differnce types and size lol

The ones over the back asked if it was ok if they replaced the fence course I said yes ..
They then build a New fence so they couldn't see the old fence n didn't dispose of anything lol.

Well happy with our garden now, 6ft fence all around, 60/40 split artficial grass and patio
Sme nice chunky sleeper planters

And now I'm finally done... were selling haha
 
our valuation/report came back today.

the value is what we offered so that is one thing out of the way! no having to renegotiate.

nothing that seems critical from report only things outstanding(highlighted by surveyor) are :

electric/gas/heating no recent certificates/inspections - seems quite common and I'm not too worried, will get that done for piece of mind. Recent fuse box etc so I presume it was carried out just no certificates.
one window seal has failed in the summer house(not sure what the definition of failed is, no leaks from what I could see when we viewed it)
mortar joints have deteriorated on the the facing flank wall - from picture it looks to be a very small portion but again, guess that is normal for a 1972 built house?

what do you lot think? from the above I think the house is in a decent condition and the surveyor seems to agree that nothing major needs repairing but recommends the safety checks on heating/gas/elec are done ASAP which is fair.
 
grudas said:
our valuation/report came back today.

the value is what we offered so that is one thing out of the way! no having to renegotiate.

nothing that seems critical from report only things outstanding(highlighted by surveyor) are :

electric/gas/heating no recent certificates/inspections - seems quite common and I'm not too worried, will get that done for piece of mind. Recent fuse box etc so I presume it was carried out just no certificates.
one window seal has failed in the summer house(not sure what the definition of failed is, no leaks from what I could see when we viewed it)
mortar joints have deteriorated on the the facing flank wall - from picture it looks to be a very small portion but again, guess that is normal for a 1972 built house?

what do you lot think? from the above I think the house is in a decent condition and the surveyor seems to agree that nothing major needs repairing but recommends the safety checks on heating/gas/elec are done ASAP which is fair.
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Totally fine. Get the wall repointed in due course. Nothing to lose a house over.
 
Smeghead said:
I'm not saying it's a complete absolute showstopper for me (I was probably just a little frustrated on the previous page with the clueless agent and was speaking with a bit of hyperbole), but I'm simply trying to gauge if this would be a bum deal, especially thinking ahead to when I go on to sell this, from an outsider's perspective. Obviously it turns out not to be.
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The agent will know absolutely nothing other than what you can realistically see. A lot of the time it will be their first visit to the property as well and they'll have nothing to go on apart from the particulars that you've also seen. Who owns what boundary or who is responsible for what fence is something your solicitor may be able to find out, not an estate agent. If I asked them a question like that I'd expect they to just lie and say whatever the best answer is to get the house sold. You should assume the same with any other questions you've asked them. They are there to ensure you don't break or steal anything and can let you into the property, that is it.

Smeghead said:
I'm just a bit extra cautious when it comes to boundaries, as my parents went through a bit of a thing where a fence was damaged after a storm funnily enough, and the neighbour it was shared with were adamant they had no responsibility over ANY of their fences (is that even possible?). Cue a lot of back and forth and re-checking deeds that was just a big polava.
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That sounds like an awful lot of stress and aggro for the sake of a few hundred quid.

Getting stressed and wondering if you should pull out of a house purchase over the fences would be the same as buying a £2000 gaming PC and wanting a refund because the window on the case has a smudge on it.
 
Likewise on the waiting. Waiting on the vendors' solicitors to sort a deed of variation still. Really hoping to see some movement this week but as yet, silence.
 
jonneymendoza said:
How long was you looking?
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On and off since we started selling ours in august. The biggest problem was that places would come on the market in the morning, viewings in the afternoon and then gone by the evening. When you can’t get time off to see it until the weekend it’s really tough. We were lucky that a previously under offer property came back on the market or we’d probably still be looking.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
On and off since we started selling ours in august. The biggest problem was that places would come on the market in the morning, viewings in the afternoon and then gone by the evening. When you can’t get time off to see it until the weekend it’s really tough. We were lucky that a previously under offer property came back on the market or we’d probably still be looking.
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Where having that issue now. Both me and my missus works Mon to Friday and the areas we are looking to buy are not walking distance from where we are at the moment (we both wfh).

How are people able to drop there job and just go visit a property lol
 
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