I've no idea of any Millwall incident but I recall (confirmed by a 2 second google search) a West Ham supporter being prosecuted for it, for those questioning whether it is a racist term.
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That's a terrible comparison. Not that I can imagine anybody would call a Russian person Vodka, it is at least a Russian product. It would be the same as the French calling us Roast Beef or us calling the French frogs legs. DVD's are not Asian. The implication is all Asian's sell knock off DVD's because a tiny minority of Asian people sold knock off DVD's in East London. I'm sure you would be offended if South East Asians referred to you as a paedo because of the actions of Gary Glitter and a few other Brits that have travelled there and carried out disgusting acts.
Please explain why Rob. How is stereotyping an Asian person in a negative way due to the actions of a tiny number of Asian people different to stereotyping Brits in a negative way due to the actions of a tiny number of Brits?
I know racially offensive stereotypes are something you've struggled with in the past but I'd love to hear an explanation.
The deeper meaing is that Asians sell knock off DVD's. It's not the worst thing you can accuse somebody of I'll give you that but it's certainly not complimentary either. It's a negative stereotype of an entire race of people - it's therefore a racially offensive stereotype, which is why people that have said it have often found themselves charged and prosecuted for doing so.
I have no idea what you mean by deeper meaning then. Deeper, actual or whatever you want to call it, the implication of what's being said is negative and it's based on race - it is therefore racially offensive. Is it the worst thing somebody could say? Maybe not but wouldn't it be great if people didn't say racist things, even if they're 'only a little bit racist' because being a little bit racist is still being racist.
Scotts are not a race, neither are the Welsh or Southerners, those are negative stereotypes though, yes 
In the Son incident the discrimination/negative stereotype is based on race, which is what makes it racist.
Your argument seems to be that we take racial discrimination more seriously than we do other types of discrimination and you may have a point but that's another argument altogether. Just because insulting the Scotts doesn't get as much attention as insulting <insert racial group or religion>, that doesn't mean that insulting black/white/asian people is not racist and wrong.
And I've just seen your edit to a previous post re the Gary Glitter thing - the point was that if South East Asians labelled all white European men as paedo's because of the actions of a handful of sick individuals, that would indeed be racist.
In the Son incident the discrimination/negative stereotype is based on race, which is what makes it racist.Your argument seems to be that we take racial discrimination more seriously than we do other types of discrimination and you may have a point but that's another argument altogether. Just because insulting the Scotts doesn't get as much attention as insulting <insert racial group or religion>, that doesn't mean that insulting black/white/asian people is not racist and wrong.
And I've just seen your edit to a previous post re the Gary Glitter thing - the point was that if South East Asians labelled all white European men as paedo's because of the actions of a handful of sick individuals, that would indeed be racist.
I think that's somewhat wishful thinking Rob. Klopp turned down a number of clubs including Utd before agreeing to join Liverpool and admitted that he had thought about managing us 15 months or so before he got the job when he stood staring at the Kop in a pre-season game. As Klopp put it himself, he's a football romantic and only certain clubs are right for him and that was Liverpool!
This point seems to have got missed by so many people. In the January window Arsenal let Maitland-Niles, Kolasinac, Mari, Chambers and Auba all leave without bringing anybody into the squad. In isolation you can accept the Auba situation - there were issues there and it was better for all if he was gone but to let a further 4 senior players go without bringing in any backup smacks of a club desperate to cut costs. Yes, those players may not have been up to it but if Arsenal could have afforded to then I'm sure they'd have held on until they could find replacements because ultimately the lack of cover in midfield and defence killed Arsenal in the 2nd half of the season.
No. Having a thread on the subject will absolutely lead to people naming or hinting at who it is. Even in here, after asking people not to do that, we've had one person hint at who it is and another name them.
He'll have a clause in it so he can escape
Not everybody pulls off the Rasta look like you can though jonney.
This debate is not only incredibly boring but plain stupid. Neither of you can back-up your statements because individual wage figures are never reported by clubs and reported figures in the press are almost always hugely under reported. And before somebody asks how I can say that reported figures in the press are hugely under reported when clubs don't publish individual figures, it's very easy to calculate approximate average earnings per first team player from clubs accounts which show that figures reported in the press are total bs. For instance @C Kent's claim about only 3 Liverpool players earning £200k+ per week is clearly nonsense based on Liverpool's total wagebill.
As for your point about Liverpool's wages @The_One, yes we were (are) paying top tier wages and that's because we've had a squad that's competed for and won major honours consistently for a number of years. Arsenal's 2017/18 to 2021/22 wagebill(s) were reflective of their on field performance - you were a Europa League side competing for nothing. Arsenal's wagebill will increase hugely as a result of their new signings and contract renewals.
As for your point about Liverpool's wages @The_One, yes we were (are) paying top tier wages and that's because we've had a squad that's competed for and won major honours consistently for a number of years. Arsenal's 2017/18 to 2021/22 wagebill(s) were reflective of their on field performance - you were a Europa League side competing for nothing. Arsenal's wagebill will increase hugely as a result of their new signings and contract renewals.
No we're not
We have 59 goals from a xG of 58.29. Arsenal have 58 goals from a xG of 54.53.
*Figures from Understat.