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The new E2140/E2160 chips

Jonny L

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What do you think about these guys, not really a gamers chip but they look a nice budget option for desktop use.
 
Cool, it seems a good choice, I think that and mainstream general desktop use will be the main work of these chips.
 
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I'm not slagging it off, I just think that people buying chips in this sort of price range will want a long lasting computer and for the games coming out in the next few months a chip with only 1mb L2 cache may struggle a bit. I know that I haven't got the money to go buying cpus that won't last.
 
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Jonny L said:
I'm not slagging it off,
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Don't worry, I understand that, sorry if what I wrote suggested otherwise, I was just interested to hear if there was some factor about the chip that you knew about that I didn't.

Jonny L said:
I just think that people buying chips in this sort of price range will want a long lasting computer and for the games coming out in the next few months a chip with only 1mb L2 cache may struggle a bit. I know that I haven't got the money to go buying cpus that won't last.
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Does the cache actually have that much of a bearing on gaming though. It does for encoding tasks, but from what I've seen benched gaming wise it looks like an awesome bang for buck chip...
 
Pulseammo said:
Don't worry, I understand that, sorry if what I wrote suggested otherwise, I was just interested to hear if there was some factor about the chip that you knew about that I didn't.



Does the cache actually have that much of a bearing on gaming though. It does for encoding tasks, but from what I've seen benched gaming wise it looks like an awesome bang for buck chip...
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lol don't worry it didn't, its just that many games benefit from the cpu having a larger cache and I think that a 1mb cache will not be enough for most of the big hitting games coming out in the next few months.
 
Darn just 2 weeks after I got an E4300!! :mad:

Is E21*0 simply E4*00 with half cache disabled, just like E6300/6400 is E6600/6700 with half cache disabled?

If it's the case I wouldn't expect retail version to overclock any better than E4*00s TBH. But we'll see.

The price is just awsome, funny though it's officially marketed as Pentium Dual Core rather than C2D according to that XS link.
 
I think Intel has got their head in the right place. Making chips that people will buy. Competing with their cheaper AMD competitors for the market.

Definitely not a gaming chip though. Even at 3Ghz it has a 1mb L2, cant OC the cache....
 
The reviews seem to have it performing well in gaming and the fact remains that it has a multiplier of 9x and for only £60 I mean thats a heck of an overhead in terms of overclocking ability!

It seems to suffer in the applications which arent necessarily gaming! I would say its certainly gonna be a great way to set up a very cheap core 2 duo system!

Look at 945 chipset based systems and I have one!
If indeed the multiplier is 9x and assuming I could get max out of the mobo like my current setup I would see the following:

e6300 @ 350fsb = 2.45Ghz
e2160 @ 350fsb = 3.15Ghz

Thats my max fsb and despite chache differences surely I would see a fairly massive performance increase without having to change my motherboard.
(Obviously if ideally it all worked out that way lol)

To be fair however I could buy Mobo for £60 but I have 2 copies of Windows MCE and Vista but both OEM so maybe I would encounter problems in the changeover
 
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Must admit I'm actually tempted for the first time to consider upgrading my 3000+ Venice. At £55+VAT the E2160 could be the new Celeron 300A! Would need a cheapish motherboard too, of course...

Just a shame I shelled out £55 on another gig of DDR(1) only a couple of months back :(
 
Another link. And it does indeed seem that the cache has an impact on gaming (albeit these benches were done on a CPU dependant resolution, I'm not sure what a "real world" resolution would show).

http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/cpu/reviews/0704/993288.html

The link is in Chinese unfortunately, however what they were basically trying to show was the direct gains from the cache while overclocked @ 3ghz. The 2160 is the 1mb, the 4300 is the 2mb and the 6850, I presume, is the 4mb.

The page numbers are in English down at the bottom or there is a drop down list. Pages 7 - 11 hold the gaming benches, they seem to test the same set of games as other benches though (but this one shows the cache comparison).
 
I expect it will overclock very well with less cache (and therefore heat). Bargin price/performance ratio :)
 
Duke said:
I expect it will overclock very well with less cache (and therefore heat). Bargin price/performance ratio :)
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I'm going to get one...

Do you think OcUK will swap one for a graphics card RMA? I bought a dud 7600GT card for £58inc from here, can I get a straight swap?
 
Cairnsey said:
I'm going to get one...
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Let us know how you get on :)

Do you think OcUK will swap one for a graphics card RMA? I bought a dud 7600GT card for £58inc from here, can I get a straight swap?
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No idea, best to send them a webnote or give them a ring.
 
hedgey said:
i read its a -5% hit, which is nothing if it clocks to 3.5.
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Yer but thats -5% in current games, in the games coming out in the next few months it will be a larger performance drop.
 
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