The new E2140/E2160 chips

steve258 · 15 May 2007 at 09:16

Anyone actually overclocked one?

WJA96 · 15 May 2007 at 13:11

HangTime said:
Must admit I'm actually tempted for the first time to consider upgrading my 3000+ Venice. At £55+VAT the E2160 could be the new Celeron 300A! Would need a cheapish motherboard too, of course...

Just a shame I shelled out £55 on another gig of DDR(1) only a couple of months back

Don't despair! ASRock to the rescue!
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775i65PE&s=n

4 DDR RAM slots - AGP slot and it overclocks to 300FSB (50% overclock).

And it costs £22 with the current google promotion and free delivery if you wait a week. You'd have to be mad not to.

Cairnsey · 15 May 2007 at 17:20

WJA96 said:
Don't despair! ASRock to the rescue!
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775i65PE&s=n

4 DDR RAM slots - AGP slot and it overclocks to 300FSB (50% overclock).

And it costs £22 with the current google promotion and free delivery if you wait a week. You'd have to be mad not to.

whats the differences between that board and the ASrock 4core?

steve258 · 15 May 2007 at 17:40

WJA96 said:
Don't despair! ASRock to the rescue!
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775i65PE&s=n

4 DDR RAM slots - AGP slot and it overclocks to 300FSB (50% overclock).

And it costs £22 with the current google promotion and free delivery if you wait a week. You'd have to be mad not to.

Don't think it supports Core 2 Duo though :confused:

p4radox · 15 May 2007 at 17:45

steve258 said:
Don't think it supports Core 2 Duo though

Indeed, would the Dual-VSTA be a better choice?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17610938

WJA96 · 15 May 2007 at 17:54

Cairnsey said:
whats the differences between that board and the ASrock 4core?

Well, the 4Core is a bodged up VIA880 chipset with loads of issues and the 775i65PE is the last generation of Intel 865 chipset which does clock and has proper performance options in the BIOS.

You can argue it both ways about the VIA880 board being more flexible and the motherboard performance not being that important when you trade up from a S939 board to a Core2Duo, but unless the Core2Duo is heavily overclocked you may as well keep a quick S939 system.

And it does support Core2Duos.

Cairnsey · 15 May 2007 at 20:26

Well whether they support C2D is irrelevant is it not? As the chips in question are not C2D

(couldn't resist)

easyrider · 15 May 2007 at 20:33

steve258 said:
Anyone actually overclocked one?

Yes currently testing at 3.2ghz

here

G_Wizz · 16 May 2007 at 03:15

WJA96 said:
Don't despair! ASRock to the rescue!
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775i65PE&s=n

4 DDR RAM slots - AGP slot and it overclocks to 300FSB (50% overclock).

And it costs £22 with the current google promotion and free delivery if you wait a week. You'd have to be mad not to.

Think this is the one you mean;

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775i65G&s=n

Supports core 2, only 2 ddr slots though, 18 quid with google checkout, plus carriage. Should get mine tomorrow :] would be nice to go with a 4500, but will have to play with 4300 for till then.

MikeHunt79 · 16 May 2007 at 03:49

G_Wizz said:
Think this is the one you mean;

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775i65G&s=n

Supports core 2, only 2 ddr slots though, 18 quid with google checkout, plus carriage. Should get mine tomorrow :] would be nice to go with a 4500, but will have to play with 4300 for till then.

Wait, so I can use my AGP gfx card and my DDR RAM, and still have c2d goodness?

How would much performance difference would there be between DDR1 and DDR2? I'm really tempted now.

WJA96 · 16 May 2007 at 07:37

G_Wizz said:
Think this is the one you mean;

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775i65G&s=n

Supports core 2, only 2 ddr slots though, 18 quid with google checkout, plus carriage. Should get mine tomorrow :] would be nice to go with a 4500, but will have to play with 4300 for till then.

How can it be under £20 with Google checkout as it has to be £30 plus shipping to get the £10 off, surely?

And I know what board I meant. That one is mATX, uses the 865G chipset and has no voltage options or proper RAM dividers. It clocks reasonably well, but not nearly as well as the 865PE based board.

WJA96 · 16 May 2007 at 07:39

MikeHunt79 said:
Wait, so I can use my AGP gfx card and my DDR RAM, and still have c2d goodness?

How would much performance difference would there be between DDR1 and DDR2? I'm really tempted now.

If you get the 865PE chipset board then the performance differential between dual-channel DDR and dual channel DDR2 is negligible. The 865G mATX board has fewer RAM voltage options, but is otherwise just as fast on the memory subsystem front.

G_Wizz · 16 May 2007 at 09:22

WJA96 said:
How can it be under £20 with Google checkout as it has to be £30 plus shipping to get the £10 off, surely?

And I know what board I meant. That one is mATX, uses the 865G chipset and has no voltage options or proper RAM dividers. It clocks reasonably well, but not nearly as well as the 865PE based board.

Well you just add something cheap that you will use to make it 30 quid, I added a tube of thermal compound and a pack of cd sleeves.

The 865pe board does not support Core 2 or E2140/2160, so rather pointless as far as this thread goes.

WJA96 · 16 May 2007 at 09:27

G_Wizz said:
Well you just add something cheap that you will use to make it 30 quid, I added a tube of thermal compound and a pack of cd sleeves.

The 865pe board does not support Core 2 or E2140/2160, so rather pointless as far as this thread goes.

I hate to break it to you, but it very definitely does support Core2Duo's. Contact me on my trust e-mail and I will link you up.

G_Wizz · 16 May 2007 at 09:31

WJA96 said:
I hate to break it to you, but it very definitely does support Core2Duo's. Contact me on my trust e-mail and I will link you up.

Ah, so someone must have modded a bios then ! according to Asrock it doesn't.

May have to try one of these then aswell.

WJA96 · 16 May 2007 at 09:38

G_Wizz said:
Ah, so someone must have modded a bios then ! according to Asrock it doesn't.

May have to try one of these then aswell.

The R2.0 boards all support all the Core2Duo's but not all the Quad-cores. But for the money, they are by far the cheapest way to cross over from AMD/AGP to Core2Duo.

Nicos Rex · 16 May 2007 at 10:07

WJA96 said:
Well, the 4Core is a bodged up VIA880 chipset with loads of issues and the 775i65PE is the last generation of Intel 865 chipset which does clock and has proper performance options in the BIOS.

You can argue it both ways about the VIA880 board being more flexible and the motherboard performance not being that important when you trade up from a S939 board to a Core2Duo, but unless the Core2Duo is heavily overclocked you may as well keep a quick S939 system.

And it does support Core2Duos.

I agonised over this choice for some time but eventually plumped for the 4core as it offered a more logical upgrade path for what is to all intents and purposes a "throwaway" board. This upgrade was from an ageing Athlon XP 2600 system and I have had no problems at all with the board.

In fact I have a 4300 running at a 50% overclock on it which by any standards is good enough for me.

I realise that it is "horses for courses" and I am well aware of the issues with the VIA880 board, but in practical terms thay have not caused me any problems.

MikeHunt79 · 16 May 2007 at 12:46

WJA96 said:
If you get the 865PE chipset board then the performance differential between dual-channel DDR and dual channel DDR2 is negligible. The 865G mATX board has fewer RAM voltage options, but is otherwise just as fast on the memory subsystem front.

Nice! I think I'm going to be ordering one of those 865PE jobbies then.

If I can get 3ghz out of a C2D, then it should be quicker than my Athlon-XP. :cool:

WJA96 · 16 May 2007 at 12:54

Nicos Rex said:
I realise that it is "horses for courses" and I am well aware of the issues with the VIA880 board, but in practical terms thay have not caused me any problems.

The 4Core does overclock significantly better than the older Dual-Core model, and it works better with DDR than DDR2 RAM, however it is a much slower chipset. As an example the same RAM/CPU combination on the Intel chipset 775i65GV is 3 seconds faster in 1M places of SuperPi than on the 4Core with the VIA chipset, which is a lot (more than 10%).

Edinho · 17 May 2007 at 06:01

Jonny L said:
What do you think about these guys, not really a gamers chip but they look a nice budget option for desktop use.

Why not? I wish people would stop saying you need an uber cpu to play games. A mid-low range cpu, 2GB RAM, a decent 1st gen DX10 GFX card. I dont see no reason what so ever why this couldnt play Crisis on good settings.