The new E2140/E2160 chips

queamin · 13 May 2007 at 08:48

Nice chip like someone said with less cache it should clock better lets hope so.

megatron · 13 May 2007 at 10:35

Jonny L said:
Yer but thats -5% in current games, in the games coming out in the next few months it will be a larger performance drop.

Any core2 over 3Ghz is enough to not hold u back. The cache difference is only noticable in certain applications, super pi is one but IIRC most games not effected.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143549&highlight=E2140

Pulseammo · 13 May 2007 at 12:37

I've also read that these chips have the "Virtualisation Technology" thing stripped out of them. Any idea if that matters a great deal; or if it is true?

easyrider · 13 May 2007 at 12:51

Pulseammo said:
I've also read that these chips have the "Virtualisation Technology" thing stripped out of them. Any idea if that matters a great deal; or if it is true?

Unless you are going to be using VM ware of running virtual servers It won't matter one bit.

steve258 · 13 May 2007 at 13:19

Pulseammo said:
I've also read that these chips have the "Virtualisation Technology" thing stripped out of them. Any idea if that matters a great deal; or if it is true?

The E4300/4400 don't have Virtualisation as well, only the E6*** have it.

[TR]SweetSpotOz · 13 May 2007 at 21:27

Damnit. They're not C2Ds.

E-penis would take a huge shrinking for that.

Cairnsey · 13 May 2007 at 21:32

markyp23 said:
Damnit. They're not C2Ds.

EH?

megatron · 14 May 2007 at 01:01

markyp23 said:
Damnit. They're not C2Ds.

E-penis would take a huge shrinking for that.

They are C2Ds in all but name, they use the same tech. Its like saying Opteron is not an AMD 3800+ if they use the same manufacturing process.

Ive been noticing an 1337 attitude as of late. Its like they dont care about the luck or skill of the overclock just that they have a "deluxe" or "xtx" or "super o/c version" and they will pay a bit extra just to dangle it in peoples faces.

From my point of view, I would be much more happy with a £60 which overclocks well; than a £350 cpu however its clocks.

I laugh at people who think they are cool buying top end kit just for the moniker not for the features i.e. buying a top of the line mobo but not intending to use its Wifi or extra raid controller or additional USB ports.

Big.Wayne · 14 May 2007 at 01:35

megatron said:
I laugh at people who think they are cool buying top end kit just for the moniker not for the features

Its the manufacturers that are laughing, they keep selling uber kit and then somehow make it worthless in the buyers mind and then manage to sell them some more uber kit.

I thought woman with their handbags and shoes made no sense but now I can see that the lads are just as bad with their hardware!

Looking forward to some overclocking results with these new chips though, the price is just great!

[TR]SweetSpotOz · 14 May 2007 at 10:27

megatron said:
They are C2Ds in all but name, they use the same tech. Its like saying Opteron is not an AMD 3800+ if they use the same manufacturing process.

Ive been noticing an 1337 attitude as of late. Its like they dont care about the luck or skill of the overclock just that they have a "deluxe" or "xtx" or "super o/c version" and they will pay a bit extra just to dangle it in peoples faces.

From my point of view, I would be much more happy with a £60 which overclocks well; than a £350 cpu however its clocks.

I laugh at people who think they are cool buying top end kit just for the moniker not for the features i.e. buying a top of the line mobo but not intending to use its Wifi or extra raid controller or additional USB ports.

I was being sarcastic mate. I completely agree.

Cairnsey · 14 May 2007 at 13:43

megatron said:
They are C2Ds in all but name, they use the same tech. Its like saying Opteron is not an AMD 3800+ if they use the same manufacturing process.

I'm still confused. They are in the C2D section of the CPU range. They are listed as a C2D, the pic of the box says C2D.

Intel Core 2 Duo E2140 "LGA775 Conroe" 1.60GHz (800FSB) - Retail

Why are they not C2D?? :confused:

steve258 · 14 May 2007 at 13:53

Cairnsey said:
I'm still confused. They are in the C2D section of the CPU range. They are listed as a C2D, the pic of the box says C2D.

Intel Core 2 Duo E2140 "LGA775 Conroe" 1.60GHz (800FSB) - Retail

Why are they not C2D??

If you look at the link mentioned earlier:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143549

It says Pentium Dual Core E2140 both on the box and on the IHS instead of Core 2 Duo.

They have the same Core architecture just marketed differently. Can someone who already bought one in the UK confirm that? I still can't find E2140/2160 on the Intel Processor Spec finder.

I think OCUK needs to change the name and pic soon although they are essentially the same.

Tooks · 14 May 2007 at 15:06

What multipliers do these 2 chips have, or did I miss it earlier on?

St0rmer66 · 14 May 2007 at 15:27

Tooks said:
What multipliers do these 2 chips have, or did I miss it earlier on?

8x on the 2140
9x on the 2160

Big.Wayne · 14 May 2007 at 15:34

Core™2 Duo E2140 (200x8 - 1MB)
Core™2 Duo E2160 (200x9 - 1MB)

Core™2 Duo E4300 (200x9 - 2MB)
Core™2 Duo E4400 (200x10 - 2MB)

Core™2 Duo E6300 (266x7 - 2MB)
Core™2 Duo E6320 (266x7 - 4MB)
Core™2 Duo E6400 (266x8 - 2MB)
Core™2 Duo E6420 (266x8 - 4MB)

Core™2 Duo E6600 (266X9 - 4MB)
Core™2 Duo E6700 (266X10 - 4MB)

Xeon™ X3210 (266x8 – 8MB)
Xeon™ X3220 (266x9 – 8MB)

Core™2 Quad Q6600 (266X9 - 8MB)

Core™2 Extreme X6800 (266x11 - 4MB)
Core™2 Extreme QX6700 (266X10 - 8MB)

Coming Soon . . .

Core™2 Duo E6650 - (333x7 - 4MB)
Core™2 Duo E6750 - (333x8 - 4MB)
Core™2 Duo E6850 - (333x9 - 4MB)

Tooks · 14 May 2007 at 16:44

Cheers guys!

I quite fancy an E4400 next. That 10 x multi should make for some OC'ing fun.

I might pick up one of these E2140/60's too for a media pc I'm scrimping together. Just need to partner it with a cheap micro atx board.

Big.Wayne · 14 May 2007 at 17:07

Tooks said:
I might pick up one of these E2140/60's too for a media pc I'm scrimping together.

I would have thought a selection of used (or spare) parts were the best for a 'scrimped' media PC. I managed to source an A64, NF4 Mobo and a 256MB PCI-E 6600LE for £60, it all works very well. I had some spare memory, Hard-disk and a PSU laying about so all I needed to buy additionally was a nice case and a new Optical drive, think the total spend was £150.

I suppose if you need an uber Media PC then a E1240 is worth a look, although unless you intend to do stacks of encoding I doubt you will notice the difference between the newer Core 2 Duo and an older mono-core (A64 etc).

INTEL are back in business!

Tooks · 14 May 2007 at 17:15

Scrimping probably wasn't the best word I could have used!

I plan to use it as a PVR, but I do encode a fair bit of stuff to a DVD, so I know the Core2 architecture is pretty good at that, but yeah I take your points.

I've already got the PSU, HD, GPU, DVD Burner, Case and CPU cooler, so really just need the RAM, CPU and Mobo, and of course a decent TV card. I'm planning on using Linux MCE too, which should be an adventure!

gurusan · 14 May 2007 at 22:04

megatron said:
Ive been noticing an 1337 attitude as of late. Its like they dont care about the luck or skill of the overclock just that they have a "deluxe" or "xtx" or "super o/c version" and they will pay a bit extra just to dangle it in peoples faces.

Hehe made me chuckle. I've got a deluxe and I only got it over the normal p5b or ds3 because of the black PCB. Also got a nice deal on it from here in the MM

shrek2 · 15 May 2007 at 08:29

So are these chips good for gaming or not?