The "New Gear/Willy Waving" thread

D.P. said:
My feelings on these things is people are often happy with them at the price but that doesn't mean they are great/as good as the official flashes. Also 3rd party flashes will often be bought by people who have never owned first party so they have no way to form a comparison.


For amateur use then they seem ideal but I just think I understand why people pay the prices for the Canon./Nikon models. You might get 90% of the Branded item for 20% of the price but if it starts malfunctioning in a paid event then it is a bit more of an issue.
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Raymond Lin said:
I was going to get a few of them instead of fixing my Canon (£135 each), but after the trouble I had with them, I think the Canon is worth every penny for my purpose.

I can't have flashes not firing...good thing I still had 3 working Canon ones (one was melted on the outside but still worked!) so still managed to have 2 off camera flash.
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Phal said:
So do the Canon ones cycle quick enough to keep up with the FPS of a 5d3?
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So I've decided to agree with you guys - The Yongnuos are going back - Did a test on the bench and after a few shots, it changed every flash group from ETTL to Manual for no reason what so ever, then lost sync. Also it couldn't keep up with burst photos at all. On burst it fired once every four shots and that was with three flashes firing so it didn't need full power by any means.

Going to stick with my old Yongnuo's (2 x 565EX with 622c and 622c-tx) ironically and just save up for the proper Canon 600EX's when the time comes to need them. However next upgrades are definitely a tripod and then a 24-70mm F2.8 and Full Frame! I never really wanted to shoot with flashes but with a 700d indoors, all I get is noise!
 
Ah fair enough - when you said one had melted I presumed it was from overheating (but then the 600EXs have much improved protection from this over the old 580s from what I've heard).

I notice Canon announced the 430EXIII-RT. Be interesting to see the pricing on that when it arrives as it could make a viable alternative to the Yongnuos for OCF slaves in low-power modes.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Ah fair enough - when you said one had melted I presumed it was from overheating (but then the 600EXs have much improved protection from this over the old 580s from what I've heard).

I notice Canon announced the 430EXIII-RT. Be interesting to see the pricing on that when it arrives as it could make a viable alternative to the Yongnuos for OCF slaves in low-power modes.
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I am not sure how it could have melted....I was inside a Teepee and it had a wooden structure, there was no heat piping anywhere like hot water running into the roof.

Ah well, that's what insurance is for!
 
Speedlites sent off.

Took some pics of the damage beforehand.

Flash 1

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Flash 2

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My wife and I have just started our photography journey with these.

Another lens will be ordered soon. Itching to play but waiting for the boss to get home so we can play together! (oeeerrr :p )

 
AshD93 said:
So I've decided to agree with you guys - The Yongnuos are going back - Did a test on the bench and after a few shots, it changed every flash group from ETTL to Manual for no reason what so ever, then lost sync. Also it couldn't keep up with burst photos at all. On burst it fired once every four shots and that was with three flashes firing so it didn't need full power by any means.

Going to stick with my old Yongnuo's (2 x 565EX with 622c and 622c-tx) ironically and just save up for the proper Canon 600EX's when the time comes to need them. However next upgrades are definitely a tripod and then a 24-70mm F2.8 and Full Frame! I never really wanted to shoot with flashes but with a 700d indoors, all I get is noise!
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You will get noise on FF indoors, just 1 stop less.


I also hated the idea of using flashes but ultimately it comes down to getting a god photo or not. Even at ISO 6400 f/2.8 indoors can be a real struggle. Moving to f/1.4 primes doesn't really solve the problem when you want a workable DoF, e.g. you are shooting 2-3 people or a running child (I'm much more liekly to be at f/5.6 than f/2.8, let alone f/1.4).

The other thing, as much as I like natural light when you are indoors you no longer have natural light, even if the lights are switched off light coming through a small window is not really natural!

The art of flash photographic is getting "natural" looking, pleasing photos with the assistance of the flash. If you do it right it will look better than shoving he camera on a tripod.


And it is not just indoors that are a problem without a flash. If you are outside with the sun beaming down the the shadow-light transition is way too harsh and the contrast too much the dynamic range of even the best Nikon/Sony sensors. Some gentle fill flash will preserve highlights and allow better shadow recovery and thus a more balanced and "natural" looking image.
 
Took the plunge and upgraded my 35mm to the IS version, it is lovely and I'm really pleased! It is much more substantial thanits predecessor and my brief testing shows it's just as sharp but the Bokeh is much smoother and the AF is a different world!



 
D.P. said:
You will get noise on FF indoors, just 1 stop less.


I also hated the idea of using flashes but ultimately it comes down to getting a god photo or not. Even at ISO 6400 f/2.8 indoors can be a real struggle. Moving to f/1.4 primes doesn't really solve the problem when you want a workable DoF, e.g. you are shooting 2-3 people or a running child (I'm much more liekly to be at f/5.6 than f/2.8, let alone f/1.4).

The other thing, as much as I like natural light when you are indoors you no longer have natural light, even if the lights are switched off light coming through a small window is not really natural!

The art of flash photographic is getting "natural" looking, pleasing photos with the assistance of the flash. If you do it right it will look better than shoving he camera on a tripod.


And it is not just indoors that are a problem without a flash. If you are outside with the sun beaming down the the shadow-light transition is way too harsh and the contrast too much the dynamic range of even the best Nikon/Sony sensors. Some gentle fill flash will preserve highlights and allow better shadow recovery and thus a more balanced and "natural" looking image.
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So as a update, before I sent the YN600's off, I did a test on how fast they fire. The 600's fired once every 4 shots on my Canon 700d Burst mode. On the other hand, my YN565's fired every shot for the first four shots in burst. I didn't bother carrying on holding the shutter as the buffer filled at 6 shots.

The other reason I want full frame is that with the lens I currently own, the scene is simply too tight indoors. The kits lens is not sharp enough for my liking nor can I get the bokeh/dof I require for my indoor natural portrait shots (that the 50mm 1.8 does so well). I don't want to invest on wide lens for crop when I know I will end up upgrading hence why I want to save up for the 24-70mm f2.8

I do agree that flashing has it's uses - It was the reason I bought the 600's in the first place so that I had a proper wireless set up and so I could use the flashes as fill. I guess the other thing is I'm not a pro nor intend to be one so the shots I take are usually different to most peoples - I capture what I feel like, not what a event requires me to capture.
 
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New toy. My first full frame, upgrade from D7100 (The Mrs now inherits that)

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Don't think I've ever seen this thread down on the second page... let alone most of the way down lol :/

Anyway, my recent purchase! It arrived too late for Eastbourne this weekend but I'll have it for Shoreham this weekend at least

You don't get a lot of packaging for your money

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

But at least this looks vaguely practical and like it won't smash to bits too easily

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

I can probably count the number of times I've taken the filter carrier out so far but I guess this will change now :)

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

Looks a bit wonky here

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

Without

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

With

52mm drop in filter by Etienne Fournier, on Flickr

Should be nice to get some glare off stuff


Images over 1,280 pixels wide should be placed in spoiler tags as I've done for you.

Cheers

Surveyor
 
Grabbed this a few weeks back for just over £200 and tbh it has been fantastic.



The Auto mode takes decent enough pics for me, way beyond my camera phone.....

 
New camera is now here. Will be keeping an eye out for either a phase one P45+, P65+ or leaf aptus-II digital back for it now. Should give the D810 a good run for it's money for landscapes and portraiture.


 
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