it was the right thing to do, just handled and executed badly
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it was the right thing to do, just handled and executed badly
I'm not aware the Chilcot report accuses Prime Minister Blair of lying - unless you know different?
Me neither. My understanding was it found the evidence in the report was flawed regarding the existence of WMD's at that time.
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Correct - I'm afraid the Corbynista Mr RaohNS is something of a young hot head labour radical. Give him about thirty years, a couple of kids and a mortgage and he will think what the hell was I thinking, what was that all about.
Flawed and he knew it. "With us no matter what".
Correct - I'm afraid the Corbynista Mr RaohNS is something of a young hot head labour radical. Give him about thirty years, a couple of kids and a mortgage and he will think what the hell was I thinking, what was that all about.
Not at all and smart arse remarks make you look quite childish. I take it BB you are either an "I don't care" or an Owen man?
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Nope, he is primarily to blame for the left's failed social engineering policies.
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I'll ask you the question again - does the Chilcot report accuse Prime Minster Blair of lying? If it doesn't then please retract your post.
You're wasting your time Billy he won't give you a straight answer.
Did Blair lead us to a war that there is more than strong evidence he was pre-committed to? Round and round we go.
As straight as an arrow.
The train left Kings Cross and the first stop was York and the reserved seats were empty. So even if they were reserved from York to Newcastle, he could have sat on them for nearly 2 hours before York.
I often get the Cross Country train to Glasgow from Newcastle off peak and it's always half empty. Yet the ticket prices go up and up as the weeks and days go past before the journey. You'd think they would reduce the train fares to entice people on when they realise they haven't sold them. Jeremy does have a point on that.
I often get the Cross Country train to Glasgow from Newcastle off peak and it's always half empty. Yet the ticket prices go up and up as the weeks and days go past before the journey. You'd think they would reduce the train fares to entice people on when they realise they haven't sold them. Jeremy does have a point on that.
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I'm afraid RaohNS that if you support Corbyn you are the one that doesn't care - about winning an election that is. For as long as Corbyn is leader the electorate are never going to vote for a Labour government. Surely, even the most optimistic Labour die hard in their wildest dreams must be able to see that.
I consider that the labour activists and the present front bench are betraying the working people of this country in the misguided hope for a better tomorrow, maybe decades down the line.
No it's not like that. Tony Blair is saying he thought the evidence was good and this is the part people like you seem unable to grasp. So we now have a situation where the question is, did he know the evidence was flawed and has now lied about this.
At this point, the Chilcot Report has not established any deceit from Tony Blair. And that's all you can say if you're going to intellectually honest about this. To just assert he lied without any evidence is a fallacy, called the argument from ignorance.
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I don't have a problem with the war, I told you that many posts back? Wars happen, get over it.
Parties are not sports teams; we don't support them because of any brand but because they reflect our political views and we hope to see them enacted. Blair led a part of the centre ground when we needed a party of the left, or centre left, and thus embedded Thatcherism into British politics instead of rolling it back. Blair, and Brown, believed you could have full-throated neoliberal economics and then fix up the resulting inequality and insecurity downstream. You can't: it doesn't work, and it's highly fragile as soon as you lose power as we have witnessed in the last six years.
I don't particularly blame them for failing to see the coming financial crisis - practically no-one did, and certainly no-one with any real voice in British politics - but I do blame them for failing to understand the importance of a more diverse economy and the harm being done by rising house prices and the collapse of social housing.
Iraq, for me, isn't that much of a sticking point (but don't get me wrong, it was a stupid and harmful war; I was one of the many who marched against it); tuition fees are a bigger and more important betrayal.
So get rid of him by calling a GE. Give him the acid test. The Blairite backbenchers are not Labour though.
No he said he would be with them no matter what. He built the case for a war based on lies and he knew they were lies. They ignored evidence, discrediting one leading scientiest (Blix) and killing another (Kelly).
Chilcot had an awful amount to contend with. Blair lied and is hiding behind "I did what I thought ws best" and you buy it. That's called sheeple mentality.
Nothing to get over but the situation we were dragged into a war that should not have happened.
If families manage to sue and are successful we will know it.
Off you go again with hyperbole lol
So we've gone from Blair lied, which you can't prove, to Blair Murdered Kelly.
I'm going to stop talking to till you remove that tin foil hat m8.
Off you go again with hyperbole lol
So we've gone from Blair lied, which you can't prove, to Blair Murdered Kelly.
I'm going to stop talking to till you remove that tin foil hat m8.
So what happened to Dr Kelly then?
I never wear accessories.