The numbers are in... (MW3, Skyrim)
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Sadly, it doesn't look like they will release an expansion, i think i read that dlc will be mostly console based and i think the first few bits at least will be 360 exclusives
Shame as if they released a proper expansion in a years time or so, it would be great! Maybe they will now that they see how well recieved it has been.
EDIT- actualliy this sounds quite encouraging - http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/11/skyrim-dlc/
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This.
Activision says Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 has broken the global sales record for a videogame, grossing $775m (£490m) in its first five days on sale.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, released soon after, was close behind. Its publisher said it shipped seven million launch units, worth $450m (£320m).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15796585
Very pleased for Skyrim!
Slightly worried about MW3 though...still being lapped up. Same again next year?!
Unfortunately they are comparing apples with Oranges
They are comparing MW3 sales figures, with a publishers claims of how many copies it has sent to retailers.
Has the publisher released actual sales figures ?
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Judging by player count on Steam isn't an accurate representation of sales IMO, for example I expect the Skyrim 'campaign' is atleast 10x the length in hours of the MW3 campaign. MW3 has been out for a couple of weeks(?) now so chances are a lot of people who bought it in that first week have completed the campaign, whereas Skyrim will still have people plugging away.
According to what I've read, MW3 broke the xbox live record for concurrent users (3.3m) which puts those Steam numbers into perspective a bit.
Now obviously there is a multiplayer component to MW3 but I suspect it is the sort of game that people will duck in and out of rather than being sat glued to their PCs like happens with RPGs.
According to what I've read, MW3 broke the xbox live record for concurrent users (3.3m) which puts those Steam numbers into perspective a bit.
Now obviously there is a multiplayer component to MW3 but I suspect it is the sort of game that people will duck in and out of rather than being sat glued to their PCs like happens with RPGs.
I don't see why that is unexpected, you've bought the game and a sale resulting in 6hrs of play is worth the same as a sale resulting in 600hrs of play. All they need to do is get the units sold, what people do with the game after that, playing it, using it as a coaster is irrelevant for the purposes of these statistics. People keep moaning about the game but each new release keeps selling, if I was them I'd keep it going. Anyone remember that "boycott MW2" group that listed countless members playing MW2 once it was released?
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I have no idea how they can.
When I ask they go mental and are like "Oh the graphics are better and it has better gameplay and online"
...No. No it does not.
There are 1 million people playing it on live right now. I've seen 2 million people on black ops. Makes the steam concurrency numbers seem a bit crap
Looking at one online store MW3 on the PC is £10 more than Skyrim. So bound to be making more money if people are willing to pay for it.
This isnt just simple to say the gameplay is rehashed and so on.
You have to look at the gaming industry as a whole, then wonder what the effect of Activisions RRP price rises on other developers/publishers has.
Then you have to think, why should developers even care about making games with a lot of depth, when Activision can sell mindless games for little effort with a massive profit margin?
By developers i don't simply mean the company, i mean every single person working in the industry, the mindset is not going to help in long run.
Of course it all falls down to the consumer in the end, which makes the discussion almost pointless.
From what I can see pricing hasn't been massively impacted by the COD series. Games are still very cheap in general, cheaper than historical game prices when you take inflation into account.
Activision know they are onto a good thing, demand is high so price is set accordingly, then milk it with DLC etc becuase you have a larger existing ownership base. It's still very rare you have to pay over £30 for a PC game which is the equivalent of around £20 in 90s prices.
Activision know they are onto a good thing, demand is high so price is set accordingly, then milk it with DLC etc becuase you have a larger existing ownership base. It's still very rare you have to pay over £30 for a PC game which is the equivalent of around £20 in 90s prices.
"DLC" doesn't indicate what the content will actually be, it just references how it's delivered to the end user. The days of expansion packs coming out as hard copy releases is long gone, simply because the logistics of doing expansion packs as DLC makes far more sense. It makes little sense to release an expansion on a disc, with a case and manual when it can be released as DLC instead.
Some developers are giving "DLC" a bad name by releasing crap as DLC, Activision is particularly guilty of that, but if you look at Fallout 3, New Vegas and Borderlands you can see examples of proper expansion packs being released in the form of DLC that is good value for money. On the other hand though, end users need to be aware of what DLC actually means and understand that it really is just a reference to how extra game content is delivered. Technically speaking, games you buy on Steam are "DLC" in the first place since it's game content that you've downloaded.
This reminds me of the quality of tv in the last few years, they seem to be producing content for the lowest common denominator.
I must admit i do like the 8 hour interactive movie (should be 6 hours, but my reactions are kak!) each year, nice to see how the story pans out.
I am sorry to say that i bought MW3 (only because it was on pre-order for £27.99) i finished the single player and played a couple of maps on multiplayer. To me it just does not feel right for some reason (on multiplayer). I now wish i had spent that money on skyrim. I can honestly say that next year i will not purchasing the next modern warfare/pink operations or whatever actirubbish churn out on the same old engine (i said that this year but have learnt my lesson).
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I still haven't completed Black Ops SP campaign and don't have any plans to pick up MW3 any time soon - at least not until it's nearer £10 - which could be years down the line
There's just no depth to the online play for me - I tried Black Ops online for about 20 mins and just didn't get into it at all ... maybe it's the pacing that I don't agree with but I much prefer some actual team work rather than everyone lone wolfing it!
There's just no depth to the online play for me - I tried Black Ops online for about 20 mins and just didn't get into it at all ... maybe it's the pacing that I don't agree with but I much prefer some actual team work rather than everyone lone wolfing it!