The OCUK Whisky (and Whiskey) review thread

One thing I've gathered from perusing the auctions is how expensive a Macallan 10yo cask strength is! Makes me think if more cask strength age statement stuff will end up that way, and inclines me to try and by some. Primarily to taste before it all ends up too expensive, but wonder if it might be worth a few investment bottles too. Very speculative I know.

Can anyone recommend any good age statement cask strength editions? Mainly interested in speyside but can be convinced elsewhere.

I have heard good things about the GlenAllachie 10 CS. Haven't tried myself but the 12 year old is very good if you're a fan of big sherry.

If you fancy something a bit different, try to pick up either a Springbank 12 CS (possibly another coming up after the summer?), or a Kilkerran 8 year old (they've just released one and probably be a year until they release another) or Heavily Peated (not sure if any more of these are planned?). They're all limited release however, and sell out very quickly.
 
Without going into specific bottles if you are particularly interested in cask strength whiskies it might be worth your while looking at an SMWS membership, all their releases are cask strength. Other independent bottlers like Signatory Vintage, Cadenheads and Gordon & MacPhail will probably be your best bet, outwith SMWS, for getting age statement cask strength bottles. While you can get original bottling CS versions they tend not to be particularly old, and are also usually snapped up by flippers to stick on the auction houses for a quick profit. It's genuinely silly what some people are willing to pay just to say they have a bottle, when the whisky isn't anywhere near good enough to warrant what they are paying. I'm talking about things like Springbank and Kilkerran here where they are good at the RRP, but not for the inflated prices on auctions.

And with regards Macallan, you can safely ignore that as far as it goes as an indicator of general pricing. It isn't really aimed at the UK market, the bulk of stock gets exported to the US and Asia, so while it is expensive everywhere it is particularly so here. They are also catering to the speculator market, so they expect that much of what they put out will go into collections and auction houses. When the whisky isn't expected to be drunk there really isn't much incentive for them to put great whisky in the bottles. That's not to say it will be bad but, again, it is almost certainly not worth what you would be paying for it.

As for investment in whisky, I suspect now isn't a great time for it, you can probably make some quick cash on the types of things I mentioned, but longer term investments in what is coming out just now probably won't work. as I dount they will hold their value, whisky prices are pretty close to the peak of what the market can sustain. But that's just my opinion.
Cheers for responding. Certainly true that I should look into IBs, something I've not done so far, and probably overdue. Wish my wife had bought me SMWS membership instead of wine society membership for my birthday a few years back!

Thanks for your take on the whole auction and resale market, I know that a lot of those prices are out of hand, a very depressing thought of all that whisky likely never getting drunk.

Had a read about Springbank and it seems their CS releases get sold out almost straight away here in the UK, I've never tried Springbank and I know it's got a certain funk, so might try a cheaper one to see if I fancy going deeper.
I have heard good things about the GlenAllachie 10 CS. Haven't tried myself but the 12 year old is very good if you're a fan of big sherry.

If you fancy something a bit different, try to pick up either a Springbank 12 CS (possibly another coming up after the summer?), or a Kilkerran 8 year old (they've just released one and probably be a year until they release another) or Heavily Peated (not sure if any more of these are planned?). They're all limited release however, and sell out very quickly.

Just had a read about GlenAllachie as it's not one I've heard of before. Sounds like I might be better trying something like Glendronach for the first time before that, thought this could be worth an outside punt it looks
GlenAllachie 10 year old 56,1%vol. 0,7l | Glenallachie | Distilleries | Whisky | Home of Malts
 
Finally managed to find some Aberlour 12 non chill filtered. It's on whiskey exchange with the new branding for 55 quid + 5 quid delivery. Pretty steep. Managed to find it on a german website for EUR 33 and pulled the trigger for two bottles (EUR 11 delivery), arrived today!

It's in the new Aberlour branding which is a bit mysterious, as the listing on the german website had the old branding, but on Aberlour's website there's no sign of the 12 NCF whatsoever. I emailed Aberlour to ask if it's back in production but no reply in 2 weeks. Who knows, but the german website is now listing it at EUR 43, so I'm feeling quite pleased with myself. Also grabbed a bottle of Benromach 10 for EUR 30, to see if I really want to pursue the 100 proof 10 year if I see it at auction.
 
Finally managed to find some Aberlour 12 non chill filtered. It's on whiskey exchange with the new branding for 55 quid + 5 quid delivery. Pretty steep. Managed to find it on a german website for EUR 33 and pulled the trigger for two bottles (EUR 11 delivery), arrived today!

It's in the new Aberlour branding which is a bit mysterious, as the listing on the german website had the old branding, but on Aberlour's website there's no sign of the 12 NCF whatsoever. I emailed Aberlour to ask if it's back in production but no reply in 2 weeks. Who knows, but the german website is now listing it at EUR 43, so I'm feeling quite pleased with myself. Also grabbed a bottle of Benromach 10 for EUR 30, to see if I really want to pursue the 100 proof 10 year if I see it at auction.
Misadvertising (not maliciously necessarily) whiskies is not that uncommon. I faced it a few months back when looking for Glenlivet 18, which recently underwent a watering-down and relabelling. The problem is quite a few retailers, if they're not whisky focussed, can chop and change descriptions, ABVs and bottle photos leaving a mismash of old bottling photos, with new variant ABVs etc. and various other combinations. Sometimes you can bag a bargain no doubt, but I can imagine getting stung too if you don't seek clarification.
 
Misadvertising (not maliciously necessarily) whiskies is not that uncommon. I faced it a few months back when looking for Glenlivet 18, which recently underwent a watering-down and relabelling. The problem is quite a few retailers, if they're not whisky focussed, can chop and change descriptions, ABVs and bottle photos leaving a mismash of old bottling photos, with new variant ABVs etc. and various other combinations. Sometimes you can bag a bargain no doubt, but I can imagine getting stung too if you don't seek clarification.
Well I'm not really fussed about the branding difference, I don't know if there'll be any way to tell if what's inside is much different to what was sold (and generally raved about it seems) before. The ABV is the same, and nothing in the wording makes me think it would be any different.
 
Purchased a bottle of Glenallachie 12yo the other day, will try it tonight. Hopefully I enjoy it, my last bottle was Arran 10yo, which I really liked and reasonable price as well.
 
Been a while since I posted in here!

Just wanted to say I got bought this as a gift and it’s my current favourite tipple. Absolutely amazing smell to it.

https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiski...MI6oGw4-fB7wIVQdPtCh21EALTEAQYASABEgLSi_D_BwE

Gets the sincere Nitefly stamp of approval. You can’t go wrong with this one.

Very nice! Kyrö were exhibiting at the Berlin Craft Spirits Festival last March (back in the dim and distant days when you could travel...). They do some very good stuff. The sample of their Rye Whiskey was excellent, as is their Dark Gin (have a bottle of that here that we brought home with us).
 
I can just sit here smelling it without tasting it. It’s an astonishingly interesting smell and taste.

Smell is sort of sweet / mothball / v. feint cinnamon and nutmeg.... some dry red currants in there, like cranberry. Taste is more the same with maybe a touch of leather. It’s something where I don’t even think of the alcohol.

Definitely getting more, seriously impressed.
 
Out of interest, what's the idea behind buying casks from Distillers?

I had an email about this

https://mackmyra.co.uk/collections/...256545933&mc_cid=1c92667667&mc_eid=23b76379a1

Their Whiskys always seem quite interesting, but beyond it being a novelty to buy a whole cask. What's the point? Presumably it's not ideal from an investment point of view unless it's a particularly excellent release. Do you just hope to drink a lot or give them away to friends/go for a group buy?
 
Splurged a bit last night. Picked up:

Glen Scotia 10 Year Old Bordeaux Red Wine Finish Campbeltown Malts Festival 2021
Douglas Laing Old Particular 2002 Bowmore 18 Year Old
Wemyss Malt Untold Riches Bunnahabain (sic) 28 Year Old

Still desperately clinging on to the hope I can pick up a Springbank 10 Year Old Local Barley as well. Then I'll be done for about 4 months :D.
 
Out of interest, what's the idea behind buying casks from Distillers?

I had an email about this

https://mackmyra.co.uk/collections/...256545933&mc_cid=1c92667667&mc_eid=23b76379a1

Their Whiskys always seem quite interesting, but beyond it being a novelty to buy a whole cask. What's the point? Presumably it's not ideal from an investment point of view unless it's a particularly excellent release. Do you just hope to drink a lot or give them away to friends/go for a group buy?
There are lots of different reasons people buy casks. To have something unique they have contol over, so they can decide when it is ready to be bottled, and at what abv, to suit their tastes, not someone elses. Then there are whisky clubs that buy them for their members. Others buy them as investments, as you can often sell them back to distilleries, or on to other investors. Or you can bottle them to drink, give away as gifts, to mark a special occassion or the like.

I toyed with the idea in the past, but the duty and taxes are a killer, so never went through with it.
 
Been a while since I posted in here!

Just wanted to say I got bought this as a gift and it’s my current favourite tipple. Absolutely amazing smell to it.

https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiski...MI6oGw4-fB7wIVQdPtCh21EALTEAQYASABEgLSi_D_BwE

Gets the sincere Nitefly stamp of approval. You can’t go wrong with this one.

Thanks, purchased a bottle, I do like a rye, my favourite so far has been Rittenhouse. Your comments sold this one to me, hopefully I will enjoy it.:)
 
Thanks, purchased a bottle, I do like a rye, my favourite so far has been Rittenhouse. Your comments sold this one to me, hopefully I will enjoy it.:)
Nice! Do hope you enjoy it. I’ve finished my bottle now (final sip in hand) and will definitely be getting another.

I may even go as far as saying it’s my new number one :eek: at least of those that are bottles I can nonchalantly open and drink :p
 
Nice! Do hope you enjoy it. I’ve finished my bottle now (final sip in hand) and will definitely be getting another.

I may even go as far as saying it’s my new number one :eek: at least of those that are bottles I can nonchalantly open and drink :p

Cheers, I will post my thoughts in a week or two.
 
Interestingly, the smell was was noticeably more immediate in a traditional whisky glass rather than the Glencairn glass. Maybe that’s the different between a large pour and the last drop dregs! But yeah big heavy glass all the way.

I’ve started opting for these big heavy, really heavy glass tumblers I got at a garden centre of all places for like £5 each.
 
Interestingly, the smell was was noticeably more immediate in a traditional whisky glass rather than the Glencairn glass. Maybe that’s the different between a large pour and the last drop dregs! But yeah big heavy glass all the way.

I’ve started opting for these big heavy, really heavy glass tumblers I got at a garden centre of all places for like £5 each.

Funny you say that, I prefer a whisky tumbler glass generally, I have a couple of cut crystal tumblers, one with a nice heavy base. Had them ages, can’t imagine how old they are as they both used to be my dads uncles who served in Burma WW2.
 
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