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Updated just now, all good. Funnily enough somehow it seems those DRAM voltages and things that we tweaked ages ago had reset to auto (whilst other settings remained at my custom values, so for who knows how long I've been running fine with all voltages and XMP enabled without issue like I was before. Weird.

I notice there's a setting for acoustic noise control when the CPU is in a deeper sleep state, the noise is like high pitched coil whine that would be mitigated if you disabled C1E in the C-States page (affected nothing else other than the noise) - Have not heard the noise with the noise mitigation setting on default (off) so will keep an ear out I guess.
 
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Overall I liked the UI of the BIOS update. I can't remember what settings were retained or not, generally I just make sure that I have a negative offset for the vcore voltages, set XMP for the RAM, ensure Gear 1 and BAR are enabled.
As long as the fan profile continued to load I am happy enough.
As for noise...............................With having persistent tinnitus high pitched whines are something that my PC's have never suffered from :D

I did notice that the chipset drivers included a couple of updates, if the extra features were enabled within the BIOS....

Intel® GNA Scoring Accelerator
Intel® Dynamic Tuning Technology (APO) Driver
 
I need to enable dynamic tuning as Intel will release the APO driver to support 12th gen soon so will get round to doing that once that happens. Other than that, GNA seems like something I'll never use really but hardware supported so I guess keep n eye on software making use of it then turn it on.
 
Ah, thanks for that - in regards to the APO driver. With having a 14700k I suppose I should enable that in the BIOS and the install the driver.............Not that it will make much of a difference at this point, for me.
 
If even at all, the number of games that actually use APO can be counted on 1.5 hands last I checked (Rainbow Six: Siege, Metro Exodus, Guardians of the Galaxy, F1 22, Strange Brigade, World War Z, Dirt 5, and WoW). IMO it's a bit of a dead horse, and GNA is subject to a specific niche.
 
Interesting one, I noticed that Cyberpunk was crashing randomly, I thought maybe it was some mods but then remembered the saga from the past with BIOS updates and things.

I ran the benchmark with XMP enabled as normal, keep in mind every other app and Windows is stable and fast, just like before, it's only Cyberpunk that crashes randomly and the game's logfile states access violation and not being able to read from a location in memory:
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I then ran the benchmark with manually set timings but the frequency at 3200MHz and 1.35v:
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interesting that the min fps has dramatically increased, there's no more hitch to just under 60fps now which was unexpected, I'm guessing this new BIOS has brought back some of the RAM quirks from the early BIOS builds which only affects certain games that are very CPU/Memory system heavy.

I'll leave it on 3200MHz for as long I have this RAM config I guess. DDR5 next build, which is a good couple years away at the least...
 
Interesting indeed @mrk .

At one point you set your memory at 3600Mhz, altho I can't remember if you accepted it at the default 3200Mhz permanently.? Well permanent, up to testing out this latest BIOS.
64GB of DDR4 and our Z690 chipset seems as good as you are getting for your setup, if you wanted icing on the cake then your results confirm that not only are you stable but it is a better end result, performance wise..!
The change for the minimums is quite amazing..!
Anyway, stability trumps all..!
I have kept mine to 3200Mhz and Gear 1.
Then again my 14700k is at defaults, with a slight undervolt.

If its any consolation by the time you consider a DDR5 system both bandwidth and latency should be pretty decent by then, at reasonable prices, compared to launch.

Side benefit being, relative longevity of the 690 board, with continued BIOS updates.

Viva la Intel, lol.
 
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I did try 3600 but it was unstable in some games back then but it was then fine after a further BIOS update at 3600 manual timings just not XMP, I then was able to use XMP for all this time and only recently after this latest BIOS update from December am I seeing the random CTDs return in Cyberpunk although saying that, I had a quick go earlier in Cyberpunk and got the CTD again which now leads me to think it is in fact one of my mods being the cause, I think I have close to 100 mods installed to be fair.

But the benchmark result is definitely accurate, I retested at 3200MHz and the higher fps min value remains the same so there's definitely more efficient memory handling at 3200MHz with these modules it seems, maybe not faster MT/s, but more efficient resulting in no hitching causing a lower min fps value to register during the benchmark test it seems.

I'll have to one by one go through the mod files and remove things I suspect might be the cause I reckon in Cyberpunk :o
 
Maybe it could be fine for you again, if the mods in CP are the stability issue. But the differences in the minimums with the 3200Mhz speed somewhat confirms what you ought to be setting it at.

That can be a pain, sometimes being not one mod that could cause the issues you describe, but how certain mods interact together. Throw 100 or so in the mix...........not fun, especially if you then go beyond the obvious.
Good luck with that..!
 
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Hmm that is interesting, I don't really want to wipe clean the game and install again as setting all the mods back up is a massive task. I have removed manually mods that I don't care about any more though so will monitor with a play session this evening and see if it happens again.
 
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After much searching around I think I tracked down the cause of the Cyberpunk crashing. After updates like these to the game, it seems that two things can affect the issue, binding keys on the mouse such as mouse 4 or 5 which are the side buttons. This for some reason can cause crashes.

The other is Razor RGB software (though I don't have any such stuff).

The other which may not apply to you is using the night vision Kiroshi Optics mod, I did have that, now removed. Since resetting the keybind away from the mouse side buttons and removing night vision, so far so good but will

Just thought to mention.
 
That message has been there since the early days :p Fan profiles always survived BIOS flashes though, you just had to restore them from a save profile as it wipes everything post-update.

the latest BIOS working fine here though, no problems to note.
 
Yeah pump control has always been there for mine, it doesn't really change much as the AIO Pump fan header on the mobo is a fixed max value anyway since it's controlled by the AIO, the fans on the AIO are controlled dynamically by the AIO controller too (although depends on the AIO, I have an Arctic Freezer II for ref and the fans are disconnected from the AIO pump and connected directly to fan headers which I've profiled. The pump itself is connected to the AIO_PUMP header and that's always at max output regardless of BIOS setting.
 
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Yeah pump control has always been there for mine, it doesn't really change much as the AIO Pump fan header on the mobo is a fixed max value anyway since it's controlled by the AIO, the fans on the AIO are controlled dynamically by the AIO controller too (although depends on the AIO, I have an Arctic Freezer II for ref and the fans are disconnected from the AIO pump and connected directly to fan headers which I've profiled. The pump itself is connected to the AIO_PUMP header and that's always at max output regardless of BIOS setting.
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I have just changed from a rev 2 to a 420mm ARGB AF rev 3.

You can see my post here....

Arctic Freezer III now available.....

Having looked for another cooler I was pleasantly surprised to see that the revision III of these respected AIO type coolers are now on sale. A couple of reviews.... Arctic's webpage to check for motherboard compatibility... https://support.arctic.de/lf3-compatibility It seems that you...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk

That links to the fan curve that I'm just starting to understand.
With this one, the VRM, pump and fans can be controlled by default.

My pump is running around 25% at default and scales accordingly.
 
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Ah I see, that's cool having the control. I'll be sticking to the II until the next CPU upgrade, which won't be for years. This thing is really good at keeping the 12700KF in silence at high 20s to low 30s just normal browsing, and under 50 when gaming, still using a silent fan curve profile, the fans are set to only ramp up once the CPU reaches 55 degrees and up which only really happens now when running a synthetic benchmark and nothing else!
 
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