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BaZ87 said:
You're missing the point.

Maybe he doesn't deserve it, maybe 50-50 is fair, maybe it's the most money he'll get from a fight etc etc etc. It doesn't matter because he knows Brook needs it more and he knows he brings more money to the table.

The peanuts Khan will make fighting in the US is more than what Brook will make fighting anybody other than Khan but more importantly, Brook isn't financially set for life like Khan is. For over a year all you've heard from Eddie Hearn is how he needs to get Brook the big pay days he deserves - the problem is Brook isn't the big draw, they need somebody to bring the money to the table and there's very few options.

If and when this fight is made I'd bet my life that Khan walks away with a bigger cut than Brook. His team have opened up by asking for 70% knowing that Brook/Hearn will try to knock them down. It's the same with Brook/Hearn opening with 50% - they know Khan will want to knock them down. That's not me saying he deserves it based on his boxing but it's how it will play out, I'm certain of that.
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It seems it's you missing the point, Khan needs to do something. Turning down Brook and fighting another nobody a terrible move. If Khan gets dropped by nobody again it's career over and if he wins who cares or even bothers to watch? After that nothing fight, it's the winner of Thurman v Garcia and a loss would mean Khan probably drops out of the rankings.
 
And he lives happily ever after as a multimillionaire, continuing to rake it in on the back of his celebrity status. Flip what you've said around for Brook - he takes the Spence fight which would make him relative peanuts and is very dangerous, if he loses he kisses goodbye to any hopes of a big money fight in the future, if he wins where does he go next? Who does Brook fight in the near future that pays him 1/3 of what he'd earn vs Khan? It's incredibly difficult to see where Brook goes if the Khan fight doesn't happen. No other fight for him at 147 gets on PPV here or the US. He could move up and maybe 12 months down the line the Liam Smith fight could be built but that wouldn't pay close to what this fight does, or just cross his fingers for the Canelo fight which again wouldn't pay as much and if/when he loses again he can forget about another big shot.

Again, I'm not disputing that the fight makes sense for Khan too. It does. The key point is Khan doesn't need the fight as much as Brook does. Khan's made £m's and will continue to make a decent living after boxing. Brook hasn't and won't.

The talk from Khan is that this fight won't happen next, he wants a fight in between. We'll revisit this if and when the fight happens and unless Khan suffers a big loss in the meantime there is no way he'll walk away without a bigger cut than Brook.
 
BaZ87 said:
And he lives happily ever after as a multimillionaire, continuing to rake it in on the back of his celebrity status. Flip what you've said around for Brook - he takes the Spence fight which would make him relative peanuts and is very dangerous, if he loses he kisses goodbye to any hopes of a big money fight in the future, if he wins where does he go next? Who does Brook fight in the near future that pays him 1/3 of what he'd earn vs Khan? It's incredibly difficult to see where Brook goes if the Khan fight doesn't happen. No other fight for him at 147 gets on PPV here or the US. He could move up and maybe 12 months down the line the Liam Smith fight could be built but that wouldn't pay close to what this fight does, or just cross his fingers for the Canelo fight which again wouldn't pay as much and if/when he loses again he can forget about another big shot.

Again, I'm not disputing that the fight makes sense for Khan too. It does. The key point is Khan doesn't need the fight as much as Brook does. Khan's made £m's and will continue to make a decent living after boxing. Brook hasn't and won't.

The talk from Khan is that this fight won't happen next, he wants a fight in between. We'll revisit this if and when the fight happens and unless Khan suffers a big loss in the meantime there is no way he'll walk away without a bigger cut than Brook.
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If Brook beats Spence then Brook is THE man at 147 if he can continue to make the the welter limit. I'd say Brook has more than a 50/50 chance of beating Spence and the next fight would probably be a unification with Thurman for three belts. If Spence wins Brook climbs the welter rankings and is one fight away from another title. Probably the WBO belt.
 
Money not belts is what fighters and Brook in particular want and what's key to negotiations. Brook can clean up at 147 but there isn't a fight there for him that will make him massive money. Even at 154, where's the money fight? As I said he'll have to cross his fingers and hope Canelo picks him out and we both know he'll be lucky to get 30% of that purse.
 
BaZ87 said:
Money not belts is what fighters and Brook in particular want and what's key to negotiations. Brook can clean up at 147 but there isn't a fight there for him that will make him massive money. Even at 154, where's the money fight? As I said he'll have to cross his fingers and hope Canelo picks him out and we both know he'll be lucky to get 30% of that purse.
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We would have to define massive money but Thurman, Garcia, Mayweather or Pacquiao would all pay millions.
 
The Khan fight is the benchmark. Pacquiao and Mayweather aren't ever going to happen and even then, Brook would get such a small cut that he probably wouldn't even make what he'd get vs Khan.

As for the other 2; neither would be PPV fights, certainly not here anyway and I don't know of any fighter getting more than hundreds of thousands, rather than millions without going on PPV. Brook reportedly only got £2.5-3m for the GGG fight - he's lucky to get half that for either of those fights.
 
Anyone watching the Eubank fight tonight?

Been watching some videos on this Quinlan guy. Seems like a really nice likeable guy and much nicer than Jr but I can't see him leaving tonight victorious.
 
I'd have watched it for free on ITV1/4 but asking £12.99 for it is a joke.

This should have been the fight ITV stuck on primetime ITV terrestrial get Eubank Jr in the casual public consciousness then if and when he finally steps up to fighting a live body (GGG, Saunders again or someone) for a proper title stick that one on PPV.
 
If you are a boxing fan, the Undercard, from what I understand is on ITV4.

I wont be buying the PPV, but ill certainly watch the undercard - Some decent fights (Some more interesting that the main event *YAWN*)
 
Vinny1511 said:
If you are a boxing fan, the Undercard, from what I understand is on ITV4.

I wont be buying the PPV, but ill certainly watch the undercard - Some decent fights (Some more interesting that the main event *YAWN*)
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Undercard isn't on ITV4, well it's not on the EPG anyway. Whole thing is on ITV Box Office from 7pm.
 
Sorry All ! I stand corrected - I thought I had read sometime ago the undercard was being shown for free on ITV4, with the main event being encrypted.

It appears that's not the case. Logically, why would it be !? Its the Undercard that's the draw in my opinion - Not that Ill be buying it, quite possibly the first 'world title fight' I've had literally not interest in.

As a booby prize however, Boxnation are showing 3 fights from 8pm, where the Eubanks have lost....Ouch, I'll watch that instead !!!!!

-Vinny-
 
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BaZ87 said:
The Khan fight is the benchmark. Pacquiao and Mayweather aren't ever going to happen and even then, Brook would get such a small cut that he probably wouldn't even make what he'd get vs Khan.

As for the other 2; neither would be PPV fights, certainly not here anyway and I don't know of any fighter getting more than hundreds of thousands, rather than millions without going on PPV. Brook reportedly only got £2.5-3m for the GGG fight - he's lucky to get half that for either of those fights.
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Thurman and Garcia will be on mega money but obviously all of those fights happen in the US with Sky covering the UK. Brook v Pacquiao or Mayweather in the UK or anywhere else would be a huge fight.

Brook v Pacquiao in the UK would be a great fight and I could see Pacquiao taking that fight. Jessie Vargas was paid 4 million for the Pacquiao fight and Brook v Pacquiao in the UK would make a lot more than Pacquiao v Vargas in the US. Not mention it leads to a IBF WBO WBC WBA mega fight for the winner.
 
Eubank looks to be in incredible shape for this. Toying with buying this fight just to see what level he's at.
 
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If he's improved it'll be from moderate level windmill to advanced level windmill. Expect him to leave his hands down, throw messy punches from any angle and rely heavily on his speed and the uppercut to get him through the fight.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
If he's improved it'll be from moderate level windmill to advanced level windmill. Expect him to leave his hands down, throw messy punches from any angle and rely heavily on his speed and the uppercut to get him through the fight.
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I don't know if thats fair. I agree he seems to have a habit of keeping his hands low, but that could be more down to the level of opponent rather than level of experience.

He seems to keep himself very contained (too contained at times) when the fight is going his way but, once someone ruffles his feathers his only response is to get wild. Wild and very dangerous to be fair but if he can he stay composed and go up gears while being harder to hit clean he'd be tough fight for anyone.

Eubank after 25-30 fights could be the real deal.
 
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