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That fight isn't going to happen.. Fury is all hot air and ducking AJ. Hes seen his pal get smashed and lose his belt and doesn't want to risk the same fate..

fury ducking aj dont talk twaddle

fury went to america and took on wilder in his back yard when aj didnt want that smoke
 
fury ducking aj dont talk twaddle

fury went to america and took on wilder in his back yard when aj didnt want that smoke
Haha. You're wrong. Wilder ducked AJ for an easier out of shape fury.. he even admitted it himself, so stop talking '"twaddle"
 
I heard Warren on talksport this morning. Apparently the only thing holding this up now is that Tyson wants assurances from the venue before signing. He won't say what they are.
 
Think it’s an absolute disgrace that it’s not in the UK..

proves that all AJ’s and Eddie’s talk of how important the UK fans are is utter twaddle and he couldn’t care less. It’s all greed, and it’s that attitude that makes me think stuff it

Don’t feed the greed

I was under the impression that Fury doesn't have a licence to box in the UK and because he doesn't like them he didn't want to get one? (I'm guessing it would be a pretty straightforward thing to get a licence regardless however?)
 
fury ducking aj dont talk twaddle

fury went to america and took on wilder in his back yard when aj didnt want that smoke

Wilder himself has come out and admitted that AJ offered substantially more money to fight him. Wilder was ducking AJ for years.

I don't think either man is ducking the other. They're both warriors. But I do think if either is causing the delay then it's Team Fury.

I heard Warren on talksport this morning. Apparently the only thing holding this up now is that Tyson wants assurances from the venue before signing. He won't say what they are.

It'll be over pound notes.

Issue with Fury's side is you have too many people wanting their own cut. Fury, Warren, Arrum and MTK will all want a cut of his pie. AJ only has himself and Eddie Hearn, seeing as he owns 258
 
Oof! That was a vicious right hand from Buatsi. Would have knocked anyone out.

Paramedics asking the other bloke where he is. He says London. He’s actually in Manchester.
 
Wilder himself has come out and admitted that AJ offered substantially more money to fight him. Wilder was ducking AJ for years.

I don't think either man is ducking the other. They're both warriors. But I do think if either is causing the delay then it's Team Fury.



It'll be over pound notes.

Issue with Fury's side is you have too many people wanting their own cut. Fury, Warren, Arrum and MTK will all want a cut of his pie. AJ only has himself and Eddie Hearn, seeing as he owns 258


Fed up hearing about it all, had loads of interest in the fight now I don't give a ****
 
It is on. 14th of August.

Good to see it's happening at last. I'm backing AJ but can see a valid case for either man winning. Just hope it's a good fight and may the best man win
 
I'm backing Fury. If he puts the pressure on early and backs him up I can't see AJ fighting well of his back foot.
If Fury tries to fight AJ like how he fought Wilder then he'll be eating uppercuts all night until he's knocked out. AJ has a very good inside game. If I was Fury I'd fight long, like how he fought Wlad.
 
Will be curious if Fury really has 3 inches in height and 3 inches in reach when they stand head to head.

If Fury tries to fight AJ like how he fought Wilder then he'll be eating uppercuts all night until he's knocked out. AJ has a very good inside game. If I was Fury I'd fight long, like how he fought Wlad.

Not necessarily. Fury applies educated pressure. Everything comes behind a jab and he feints multiple times so you can't tell if he's going to hit you or feint. And then lands long shots to set up inside work. All of his aggression is based on the opponents mistakes though. By the time his opponent has taken the 2 set up shots, they are going backward their punches typically lose their leverage. Joshua's defense, chin and heart are all suspect from the first Ruiz fight for my money. But Joshua's the better athlete with a punchers chance. It's a great match up that we're lucky to see when both are primed and ready to go.
 
Will be curious if Fury really has 3 inches in height and 3 inches in reach when they stand head to head.



Not necessarily. Fury applies educated pressure. Everything comes behind a jab and he feints multiple times so you can't tell if he's going to hit you or feint. And then lands long shots to set up inside work. All of his aggression is based on the opponents mistakes though. By the time his opponent has taken the 2 set up shots, they are going backward their punches typically lose their leverage. Joshua's defense, chin and heart are all suspect from the first Ruiz fight for my money. But Joshua's the better athlete with a punchers chance. It's a great match up that we're lucky to see when both are primed and ready to go.
Fury has only recently, since Javon joined his team, started to sit on his punches and put the pressure onto fighters. Previous to that he was always a slick boxer who moved around well. The reason he rushed Deontay is because he lacks anything other than the straight right. If you don't give him the distance to throw that shot, he literally has nothing else. Joshua has a brilliant inside game, throws fantastic combinations and is a vicious finisher

Joshua is going to be the best fighter Fury has shared a ring with who will actually be game to fight. Wlad was far too tentative to throw in their bout but you also need to give Fury credit for making him hesitant. I would've liked to have seen the rematch without a gun-shy Wlad though. But Fury decided to pull out, take drugs and never defend his belts in the ring. Oh, and the wild boar meat.... :rolleyes:

I'm not sure why you would say his chin and heart is suspect. He got up from the bomb that Wlad threw in their fight and that's probably one of the hardest punchers. He also didn't stay down from Ruiz and was stopped on his feet. He just never recovered from that shot on his temple and his legs were gone.

It is a genuine 50-50 fight which is why I can't wait for it but my reasons for backing AJ is that he is more experienced at he highest level. It doesn't necessarily mean he'll automatically win but Fury has only 3 wins of current top 20 ranked fighters (Wilder, Chisora and Wallin). Whilst AJ has beaten 6 of the top 20 while 4 of whom are in the top 10. I think I'm being generous even calling Wilder an elite level fighter as who has he really beat? An aged Ortiz twice and Malik Scott? AJ was trying to make the Wilder fight for years but Wilder avoided him so it would've been interesting to see how he would've coped there.

AJ had an arguably better amateur career than Fury also - also beating Wallin (Fury's 3rd highest win out of active fighters) and only losing the amateur world championship to a Azerbaijani who got a dubious nod in his home country (you can make the same argument for AJ winning the Olympic gold in London 2012)

Let's also not pretend that Fury is some demi-god of boxing who is a god amongst men. He arguably lost his first fight with John McDermott and was lucky to get the nod

And lets also not pretend that Fury is the one with the iron clad jaw as he has been dropped several times in his career once by a cruiserweight in Steve Cunningham

And the first time by Hall of Famer quality Neven Pajkic

Then you take into account that someone of Wallin's level was able to hit Fury enough to land a cut that Fury was very lucky didn't end the fight.

They then have history together where when AJ was IABA champion and Fury was British Heavweight champion in Furys own words AJ put it on him and backed up by AJs amateur trainer

Now obviously that was a long time ago and both fighters have improved since then but it just shows how close these two are.

If lesser fighters than AJ have been able to give him problems I have no idea how people can come to the conclusion that AJ only has a 'punchers chance'.

Fury has looked great in some fights but is it really that hard to do when you're in fights with names like; Pianeta(PTS), Schwarz(tko) and Seferi(Another cruiserweight who RTD)? As If AJ or any other top 5-10 heavyweights wouldn't breeze past either.

It's a 50:50 and I only lean towards AJ as he's been in and beaten better fighters and has consistently fought at world level since beating Charles Martin and is active. Fury would've been out he ring for 18 months when they fight and that may well have an effect.

Plus... AJ has never done this

Roll on 14/8 and may the best man win but lets not act like it's a foregone conclusion with Fury only having to rock up to the event.
 
Could the fight be off already? A couple of boxing journalists are reporting that Wilder has won his arbitration with Fury regarding a third fight between the pair. Fury now can't fight Joshua unless Wilder gives the green light for it to happen.

Thankfully I can't see Wilder wanting to fight Fury again but he's going to be wanting a huge pay-off before he admits it.
 
Could the fight be off already? A couple of boxing journalists are reporting that Wilder has won his arbitration with Fury regarding a third fight between the pair. Fury now can't fight Joshua unless Wilder gives the green light for it to happen.

Thankfully I can't see Wilder wanting to fight Fury again but he's going to be wanting a huge pay-off before he admits it.
It’s always gonna be a fight I won’t believe is happening until they’re standing in the ring opposite each other
 
Could the fight be off already? A couple of boxing journalists are reporting that Wilder has won his arbitration with Fury regarding a third fight between the pair. Fury now can't fight Joshua unless Wilder gives the green light for it to happen.


Thankfully I can't see Wilder wanting to fight Fury again but he's going to be wanting a huge pay-off before he admits it.

Fury knew this was going to happen hence the strange turn around in attitude towards the fight with AJ..
 
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