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Doobedoo said:
Knowingly or unknowingly?
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Doesn't matter. It was in his system so both he and his team are accountable for that. He was talking a big talk a few years back about not even taking Vitamin C cause his nutritionist needs to check all the ingredients to make sure it's all allowed both in and out of competition. So where is that nutritionist.

Canelo cheated but he provided the receipts to show why it wasn't what it first looked like and he went on to provide a hair sample which shows traces for even longer than a urine test.
 
The_One said:
100% cheat imo only have to look at how quickly his physique changed
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100% looked like a boy fighting that French guy, Prenaud or something, to having thick legs and aggression.
He looked smaller in his recent training video he released. Notice how Felix Cash also hasn't been looking as sharp since all of this?

I can't wait for him to stop targeting old and past it champions and starts fighting young hungry prospects.
 
Junglist said:
Doesn't matter. It was in his system so both he and his team are accountable for that. He was talking a big talk a few years back about not even taking Vitamin C cause his nutritionist needs to check all the ingredients to make sure it's all allowed both in and out of competition. So where is that nutritionist.

Canelo cheated but he provided the receipts to show why it wasn't what it first looked like and he went on to provide a hair sample which shows traces for even longer than a urine test.
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Big difference though between knowingly an unknowingly. He should be punished accordingly but not in the court of public opinion.
 
Doobedoo said:
Big difference though between knowingly an unknowingly. He should be punished accordingly but not in the court of public opinion.
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I disagree. He is the one getting in the ring and the buck stops with him and his team.

If a team decided their fighter was lacking something and then decided to sneak drugs into his food/drinks and then he benefitted from a full cycle on some snazzy gear but gets caught at the end - should that fighter be let off? They still have the benefit of the drugs in their system

Like Benn said himself earlier in his career. He employees people to check these things for him, remember this is someone who can't even take vitamin C without checking it over.
 
Junglist said:
I disagree. He is the one getting in the ring and the buck stops with him and his team.

If a team decided their fighter was lacking something and then decided to sneak drugs into his food/drinks and then he benefitted from a full cycle on some snazzy gear but gets caught at the end - should that fighter be let off? They still have the benefit of the drugs in their system

Like Benn said himself earlier in his career. He employees people to check these things for him, remember this is someone who can't even take vitamin C without checking it over.
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You’re confusing liability and intent. Two different things.

Him and his team is liable for the failed tests and responsible for disproving that. It doesn’t prove he knowingly took the substance though.

Knowingly is cheating, unknowingly is being guilty of negligence.
 
The issue is he made a big deal about knowing everything he takes. So what is it? You know everything you take or you and your team are incompetent

It's in his system but he doesn't want to prove his innocence due to pride.... Pride?!

He should just provide a hair sample and prove nothing else is in his system and it wasn't being used post cycle. But he wont do that...
 
Not disagreeing he shouldn’t be allowed to fight until this is put to bed, but this is boxing and as much as I love it the sport is dodgy, as it always has been.
 
Yeah I just read about this,

I don’t think Fury ever wanted to fight Usyk, when Usyk accepted the 30/70 split, he totally called their bluff.

I’m not surprised to see that Fury keeps changing things to make it unacceptable for Usyk.
 
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