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Sugar hill basically confirming Fury never even had a training camp planned for Usyk as he had a flight booked to fly back to America on the 28th of March.


Demsey Mckean also confirming that Fury had no southpaw sparring.


It was all smoke and mirrors.
 
Doobedoo said:
Sugar hill basically confirming Fury never even had a training camp planned for Usyk as he had a flight booked to fly back to America on the 28th of March.


Demsey Mckean also confirming that Fury had no southpaw sparring.


It was all smoke and mirrors.
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It's all in a past now I hope he give up his gloves and go away to stop wasting time.
 
I always thought it was mad how much stick AJ took for fighting dangerous tough fighters, right off the bat - no hesitation, Povetkin, Pulev, Ruiz (twice) Parker, yet Fury won't fight someone who AJ fought twice (Usyk) fair and square.

Fury just hasn't fought enough, he hasn't put himself out of his comfort zone enough - you have to acknowledge Wilder, but that's been and gone - he needs to be fighting top fighters, that last joke with Chisora was a shameful excuse of a fight, against someone who just needed some cash.
 
Screeeech said:
I always thought it was mad how much stick AJ took for fighting dangerous tough fighters, right off the bat - no hesitation, Povetkin, Pulev, Ruiz (twice) Parker, yet Fury won't fight someone who AJ fought twice (Usyk) fair and square.

Fury just hasn't fought enough, he hasn't put himself out of his comfort zone enough - you have to acknowledge Wilder, but that's been and gone - he needs to be fighting top fighters, that last joke with Chisora was a shameful excuse of a fight, against someone who just needed some cash.
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Basically Fury’s turned up to tarmac your drive, done half a job, took your money and done one.

Everyone told you it would happen because ultimately you should never trust a traveller. Everyone should know this.
 
Screeeech said:
I always thought it was mad how much stick AJ took for fighting dangerous tough fighters, right off the bat - no hesitation, Povetkin, Pulev, Ruiz (twice) Parker, yet Fury won't fight someone who AJ fought twice (Usyk) fair and square.

Fury just hasn't fought enough, he hasn't put himself out of his comfort zone enough - you have to acknowledge Wilder, but that's been and gone - he needs to be fighting top fighters, that last joke with Chisora was a shameful excuse of a fight, against someone who just needed some cash.
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And really, what did Wilder ever do or who has he ever really beat? He has that great equaliser but he is very much a one trick pony. Ancient Ortiz was clearly up against him until he got tagged. We can't put too much stock in the Wilder trilogy until Wilder himself fights some more of those around him.

How these two managed to con the public into thinking they are/were the division #1/#2 is impressive.


The_One said:
Usyk vs fury will happen it will be in saudi you watch
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Once he stops running away from "the middleweight". They offered them both good money, should've snapped their hands off. Fury thinks he is a bigger draw than he actually is so is expecting to land some wild purse that likely doesn't exisit.
 
Junglist said:
And really, what did Wilder ever do or who has he ever really beat? He has that great equaliser but he is very much a one trick pony. Ancient Ortiz was clearly up against him until he got tagged. We can't put too much stock in the Wilder trilogy until Wilder himself fights some more of those around him.

How these two managed to con the public into thinking they are/were the division #1/#2 is impressive.



Once he stops running away from "the middleweight". They offered them both good money, should've snapped their hands off. Fury thinks he is a bigger draw than he actually is so is expecting to land some wild purse that likely doesn't exisit.
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£500 mil :D
 
Not the biggest fan of Laura Woods but I think they have hit the nail on the head, It’s getting harder to stay interested in the sport.

 
Junglist said:
Ancient Ortiz was clearly up against him until he got tagged. We can't put too much stock in the Wilder trilogy until Wilder himself fights some more of those around him.
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Yeah I'm glad you brought that up actually, I remember watching Ortiz v Wilder and Wilder almost lost that fight.

To be fair, I'd really like to see AJ fight Wilder - both have careers they need to salvage, would be interesting.
 
Screeeech said:
Yeah I'm glad you brought that up actually, I remember watching Ortiz v Wilder and Wilder almost lost that fight.

To be fair, I'd really like to see AJ fight Wilder - both have careers they need to salvage, would be interesting.
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Well Gareth A Davis is convinced Usyk will end up fighting Wilder next, but I can’t see how that happens given Usyk’s mandatory with the WBA will be called if the fight with Fury fails to take place.

Wilder has ducked a fight with Ruiz Jr that was ordered as a final eliminator by the WBC, he certainly doesn’t deserve to get a title shot before Dubois, Joyce and Hergovic. Boxing is in a real mess at the minute, none more so than the flagship heavyweight division. It’s a joke something needs to change.
 
Joshuas not going to go near a potential career ending fight for a while now, he'll squeeze a couple more drops from the money tree before then. It'll be Whyte next for him after this Franklin fight. Another Fury V Chisora esque fight no one wants to see.
 
Psycho Ned said:
Joshuas not going to go near a potential career ending fight for a while now, he'll squeeze a couple more drops from the money tree before then. It'll be Whyte next for him after this Franklin fight. Another Fury V Chisora esque fight no one wants to see.
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Are you saying he’s going to do what Fury’s doing?
 
Here’s Frank Warren doing damage limitation for his fighter and attempting to spin the narrative like the snake he is.

“Tyson’s a bit p’d of because obviously he’s been in training constantly. He’s got his trainer in. It’s not a conversation [we’ve had yet.] Everything’s too raw at the moment. We’ll work it out. Listen, he may retire – I don’t know what he wants to do. He’ll do whatever he wants to do.”

“Tyson’s a very philosophical guy, and he will do whatever he choses to do. And whatever he chooses to do, I’m there with him.”
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That is a blatant lie as Sugar Hill is on record saying he was never here for Tyson, he was here for Okolies fight then has a flight booked on the 28th of March to fly back to America.

Fury never intended to fight Usyk that has become quite obvious.

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Tyson Fury 'May Retire' After Usyk Fight Collapses

Tyson Fury's promoter, Frank Warren, has said that it's 'too raw' to discuss where his fighter goes following the collapse of negotiations with Oleksandr
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Doobedoo said:
Here’s Frank Warren doing damage limitation for his fighter and attempting to spin the narrative like the snake he is.


That is a blatant lie as Sugar Hill is on record saying he was never here for Tyson, he was here for Okolies fight then has a flight booked on the 28th of March to fly back to America.

Fury never intended to fight Usyk that has become quite obvious.

boxing-social.com

Tyson Fury 'May Retire' After Usyk Fight Collapses

Tyson Fury's promoter, Frank Warren, has said that it's 'too raw' to discuss where his fighter goes following the collapse of negotiations with Oleksandr
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Retire again? How many times is that now?
 
Psycho Ned said:
Joshuas not going to go near a potential career ending fight for a while now, he'll squeeze a couple more drops from the money tree before then. It'll be Whyte next for him after this Franklin fight. Another Fury V Chisora esque fight no one wants to see.
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I don't agree, AJ has never been like that - he's always gone after the best opponents he's been able to get, and never avoided the tough fights and put himself out of the comfort zone.
 
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