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VaderDSL said:
They'll be cloaked though :)

This guy's good, and i prefer your way since there's no compromise, but heavily reliant on team though, so perhaps take more cloaked recon buddies.

However what if no friends are close by?
 
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Sorry Vimanis,

I've never really played a spaceship game before, i think i want to be a caldari as they seem sort of even footed.

Cause i want to fight, evolve, build the best ship, and maybe command and lead... Dunno if these things are possible....

If this was a fantasy game i would want to be a ranger, someone who can fight and use magic quite well....

Not sure if made any sense at all there
 
Meds said:
Sorry Vimanis,

I've never really played a spaceship game before, i think i want to be a caldari as they seem sort of even footed.

Cause i want to fight, evolve, build the best ship, and maybe command and lead... Dunno if these things are possible....

If this was a fantasy game i would want to be a ranger, someone who can fight and use magic quite well....

Not sure if made any sense at all there

Caldari is a good choice for starting with, they're especially good for missioning. I know what you mean by ranger and magic user and using my FF analygy: a ranger is a long ranged bow & arrow type of guy and as a black mage as a secondary job. Now any FF fan will tell you that's a bad combination but here it sort of works.... kinda. Ranger relates to sniping i'd imagine, and black magic relates to missiles? since you can change the missiles to any type of damage. Only the typhoon of the minmatar falls into this category with a bonus for projectile sniping and another bonus for missiles.

However the caldari are sort of like paladin / blackmages with their shield tanking uberness and missile skill. Gallente are kinda like summoners / warriors with their drones, short range blasters and armour tanking. Amarr i guess are like knights / rangers with really good armour tanking skills and are equally good at short and long range attacks.

Finally my favourite the minmatar i guess are Ninjas / Rangers since they are fast which helps short range fights, and they can snipe, but have the poorest defense of them all however they have the most flexible defense of them all. But you need a lot of skills to work their machines.

This is by no means fixed infact you'll find a lot of the ships can cross over roles, this is just a generalisation and trademark of a race.

I think i've lost everybody.
 
Vimanis said:
This guy's good, and i prefer your way since there's no compromise, but heavily reliant on team though, so perhaps take more cloaked recon buddies.

However what if no friends are close by?

Personally if I had no friends nearby I wouldn't take a 3/4 billion + ship into low sec and sit at a safe spot :D

But I don't make much ISK
 
VaderDSL said:
Personally if I had no friends nearby I wouldn't take a 3/4 billion + ship into low sec and sit at a safe spot :D

But I don't make much ISK

Hey ppl battle it out with faction fitted rattlesnakes, so why not, lol.

Saying that, if i had 2 cnrs then yeah i would bait them, otherwise no.
 
VaderDSL said:
Personally if I had no friends nearby I wouldn't take a 3/4 billion + ship into low sec and sit at a safe spot :D

But I don't make much ISK

My 4bn+ Vindi almost got taken out by sentries + gank mega with high grade slave implants o.0 Remeber kids faction BS are not solo pwnmobiles and awsome corpm8's > * in EVE :p

All I can say to the new guys above is that no other MMO and rarely any FPS can get my heart going like EVE does :)

(wtt: couple of bust mobo's and PII 300 for slave set!)
 
Hi All,

I signed up as a Caladri Soldier - And i'm called Darth Meds, also applied to join the OCUK corp so should be cool.

Just working my way through the tutorials now. Thanks vimanis for all you advise, appreciate it.

So if anyone wants to help me or give me some res to get me going, please do???

Thanks all

Meds
 
Concorde Rules said:
heh, a pirate in some amarr cruiser just tried to n0b me :D

Warped out just in time :cool:

Probs could have had him tho, was at 15km away and *could* have popped him in that time.

(was in Navy Apoc at the time!)

Which cruiser?
 
Meds said:
Hi All,

I signed up as a Caladri Soldier - And i'm called Darth Meds, also applied to join the OCUK corp so should be cool.

Just working my way through the tutorials now. Thanks vimanis for all you advise, appreciate it.

So if anyone wants to help me or give me some res to get me going, please do???

Thanks all

Meds

Good choice of corp ;)

That means I'm not the n00b anymore :D
 
anybody give me any pointers for setting up my vaga ?

i have:

High:
5 220MM II's
1 medium N.O.S I (will change it to tech2 when i get skills)

Mids:

1 warp disruptor
2 large shield extender II's (takes me to 9000 shields or so)
1 10mn MWD I

Lows:

1 Gyro II
1 nano
1 local i-stab
2 PDU II's

also got 1 kinertic shield hardener rig

i was messing about with a 2004 character in my corp with him in a stabber and me in the vaga, and we we're fairly evenly matched, and err, thats not right :p

Help !
 
Need a named or T2 MWD at least. Vaga = speed above all else.

Other than that i'd prolly drop the nano for annother istab, and possibly one of the PDU's for annother gyro.

Rest looks fine.

However for the Vaga to be really good you need a faction MWD really.
 
Aye, i'm not surprised, you have a slightly gimped setup there matey, but nothing to worry about, only some slight tweaks.

You can chose to use 220 or 425s, i think a lot of ppl use 220 because it has better tracking, bearing that in mind you wont need istab or really the nano. Also dump your shield extenders to reduce your sig to increase your evasive defense, and ditch your pdus you don't need them.

Armour tank your vaga with a 1 x small and 1 x medium rep, have the small on when you start taking dmg. Put on a passive exp and kin armour hardner for your lowest resists, and then put on a damage control II, have that running constantly. Just actually noticed that vaga has 1337 base armour points, lol.

In your mids: disrup2, webber2, AB2, tracking disrup2. You don't want mwd really, the vaga doesn't need it and tbh it needs cap more and less sig. I think you might have enough power for a nosferatu2, but i'm not sure cba to calculate it. I think the reason your friend got to you was because of the mwd mainly, since it increases your sig radius 500% making u larger than battleship size to his guns. Also going so fast in a orbit means you exceed your gun's tracking capability, ok so he has the same problem, but he's got a bigger target to hit than you, so he has the clear advantage. Remember also that your twin shield extenders also played a big part in increasing your sig size even more.

Since this is a 1v1 you won't need a gyro since the stabber who you're fighting won't have very good resists anyway, plus also you're messing with his tracking. If you find your guns aren't hitting that well, slow your orbit down.

No doubt someone will correct me if i've made a mistake, much appreicated. But i hope this helps or gives you a rough idea anyway, and hopefully u can beat-up your friend and convince him to get a vaga too, lol.
 
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I'd cry (with joy at the easy kill) if I saw a non-MWD using armour tanked Vaga...


Vaga is all about speed, you don't need an active tank because going 4-5Km/s nothings going to hit you. Passive sheild tank from the extenders just give you a buffer just incase your silly enough to get webbed.

You need the Istabs/Nano's to give you more agility to manouver at high speeds.

The PDU's are for fitting.


Forgot to mention you want Falloff rigs on the Vaga, i'd not even bother with the kinetic damage rig.

EDIT - If you want some good Vaga setups, and discussion http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=461581
 
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Well pitting my vaga against your vaga, presuming you fly one. Whilst you're mwding around me at OMG insane speeds worthy of the guiness book of records, well not really because you'll be webbed, you're diminshing your cap faster than god knows what, to add to that your guns can't hit me, but i can hit u very easily whilst also armour repping, your nosferatu is draining exactly what i'm draining back from you, so no cap plus points there either, however your cap is 25% down anyway, and you will be forced to switch off your mwd, or you will use mwd to get away from me. I really cannot see anyway how you would beat me, because eventually i'm going to break your passive shield recharge time.
 
Vimanis said:
Well pitting my vaga against your vaga, presuming you fly one. Whilst you're mwding around me at OMG insane speeds worthy of the guiness book of records, well not really because you'll be webbed, you're diminshing your cap faster than god knows what, to add to that your guns can't hit me, but i can hit u very easily whilst also armour repping, your nosferatu is draining exactly what i'm draining back from you, so no cap plus points there either, however your cap is 25% down anyway, and you will be forced to switch off your mwd, or you will use mwd to get away from me. I really cannot see anyway how you would beat me, because eventually i'm going to break your passive shield recharge time.

Just how will you be webbing me when i'm at 20Km+ orbiting at about 3.5Km/s...

You'll never be able to get into *** nor Web range as your ship speed is massivly inferior, nor will you be able to escape as even with your AB on you'll never break scram range.

So while i'm orbiting you at 'OMG insane speeds' pew pewing your armour you will be sat there unable to ***, Web, nor hit me...


The Vaga is a rather unremarkable HAC, its not uber, its not indestructable, its not even got good firepower, the one and only point of a Vaga is to go fast and kite damage while dictating range.
 
5 220 II

10MN MWD II
Warp Disruptor II
2 Large Shield Extender II

2 Nanofiber II
2 Overdrive II
1 Intertia Stab II

Polycarb Engine Housing
Low Friction Nozzle

Drones 5 Light ECM.

Goes at least 5.2K with a fall off of over 20KM with barrage.

Only way to fit a vaga ^^.
 
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